GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:42 pm

Yes, that would be the SH!T FOR BRAINS award. :mad: :mad:

Steps taken to replace a burned out low beam bulb on my wifes 2009 GMC Acadia:

First, Waste approximately 1 hour looking for access to the rear of the headlamp assembly from above the engine compartment. You reason that this must be a simple enough job only requiring 5 minutes at the most. You are thinking this is the case due to the easy replacement of bulbs that has been designed into vehicles for decades. Heck my '03 Silverado has a simple pin that is removed allowing the assembly to flip down for easy access to the bulb, taking all of 2 minutes with no tools required and things have advanced since then, right??!!

Second, look in the owners manual and discover the only bulb replacement directions are for the license plate bulbs and notice a note indicating that if bulb replacement directions are not present then one should return the car to the dealer for bulb replacement.

Third, realizing that returning a car to the dealer to replace a light bulb would be completely idiotic and would cause the forfeiture of ones MAN card, you search the web for directions on the obviously easy steps that you are overlooking.....well it turns out nothing simple was overlooked so you feel better about your chances to retain your MAN card.

Fourth, one must remove 10 screws from the plastic wheel well cowling to access the rear of the headlamp assembly from the wheel well. You cannot simply unscrew them, because in order to get to the 10 screws the car must be started twice to turn the front tires each direction so there is clearance for a screwdriver to actually reach the screws.

Fifth, You won't actually be able to remove the cowling because it will still be fastened by some unknown force in the universe. You will just pull it down far enough to get your arms behind it just before it snaps back up cutting into your forearms. Please don't flinch and pull your arms back out or you will receive scrape marks down to your palms and if deep enough you may bleed out from cutting the veins and arteries in your wrists.

Sixth you will lose some knuckle flesh blindly trying to unscrew a plastic cap which will give you access to the lamp holder which you will blindly twist and pull back losing more knuckle flesh.

Seventh, you need a flashlight small enough to hold in your mouth since both hands will be needed to pry back two metal tabs that hold the bulb in the lamp holder.

Eighth...you will realize you have lost a large measure of your Christian outlook on life sometime during this process.

Congratulations, you have just removed the bulb.

The real fun part comes while trying to get the new bulb back in place.

edited to add: I feel like I have morphed into SMITTY!!! :? :lol:
Last edited by titleist1 on Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Mar 05, 2011 4:56 pm

HAHAHA you need to have a cup of coffee and a bong hit before you start a job like that. I know man, they're just not happy unless they're making things too complicated! You did not lose your MAN card! Especially if you have lacerations at the end of the job! Imagine the dealer price for a light bulb change .. $1001.00

That reminds me, I have a tail light bulb out on my 91 GMC Sierra. 4 screws and the taillight assy. is in your hand.
I just looked at a 91 2dr. 4wd Blazer with a Meyers plow on it. It was on a suburban road near me. Stopped by and called the guy. He came out and I sized him up as he took me for a test drive.
" Oh there's nothing wrong with the truck, I got it from a little old lady", etc. " I only used it as a back up for my plow business, I only plowed with it 4 times..."
"IT WENT RIGHT THROUGH INSPECTION!" the guy tells me. I pointed out that it's inspection sticker was expired 1/11, and that it wouldn't pass with the studded snows and rotted out bumper. Liar. :oops:
Hydraulic fluid stains under the plow pump and the smell of hot oil from bad valve cover gaskets. We got back and I asked the guy what he wants for it. $3900.00 Yeah ok right thanks for your time buddy.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: mozz On: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:22 pm

Shouldn't a 2009 be under warranty? I have seen so many late model Chevys with burned out lights they should be recalled. I guess that is the Chinese cheap parts. How many Chevy Trailblazers only a few years old and no brakes lights whatsoever, none. Windows go down then not back up? Totally just stall out? Only GM's I ever owned were late 70's models. Glad i never bought any 80's-90's and the problems with 2000 up rotting out brake and fuel lines, water getting into trunk, sunroofs leaking, sorry not for me. Please go to carcomplaints.com and read up on some various GM models, 2004 seems to be a really bad year.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:43 pm

Too funny, that is why them make them that way to return it to the dealer for service!! (just kidding).

My 2003 Mustang is probably the easiest, 2 long flat clips even a L shaped part to grab on to (About 6" long ) you slide out from behind the headlight assembly, and the whole thing comes right out. Unplug the bulb, unscrew the ring holding in the bulb. Done. NO tools necessary. :)
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: eelhc On: Sat Mar 05, 2011 8:11 pm

Were HID Xenon Discharge Headlights an option for your vehicle? They made the replacement difficult for those lamps to deter theft as they sell for $1000+ for parts. My Caddy (05 SRX) has those and yes it's a PITA to get at them.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: shapps1313 On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:23 am

Your not alone, and GM doesn't have the market cornered on dumb headlight design. My brother had a VW golf,he tried changing the bulb out himself, had to remove the whole front grill,and still could not get at the backside of the headlight.Took the car to the dealer cost around $100 to replace the darn thing. After the 4th trip to the dealer in 6 months for the same headlight he got rid of the car.

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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: 009to090 On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:42 am

WNY wrote:My 2003 Mustang is probably the easiest, 2 long flat clips even a L shaped part to grab on to (About 6" long ) you slide out from behind the headlight assembly, and the whole thing comes right out. Unplug the bulb, unscrew the ring holding in the bulb. Done. NO tools necessary. :)

That must've been a standard headlite assembly back in 2003. Our 2003 and 2004 Subaru Outbacks have the same system. VERY EASY.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:00 am

DVC500 at last wrote:
WNY wrote:My 2003 Mustang is probably the easiest, 2 long flat clips even a L shaped part to grab on to (About 6" long ) you slide out from behind the headlight assembly, and the whole thing comes right out. Unplug the bulb, unscrew the ring holding in the bulb. Done. NO tools necessary. :)

That must've been a standard headlite assembly back in 2003. Our 2003 and 2004 Subaru Outbacks have the same system. VERY EASY.


My 06' Ford Ranger Sport was the same too, had those 2 long flat clips with the 'L' to grab, pull both of em up and presto, whole assy. is in your hands!!! Couldn't be any easier!!!

Anyone know if the 1998-2002 Ford E-Series vans have that same type setup??? I'm in the market for an E-350 regular wheelbase with NO windows, 7.3L Powerstroke and barn doors on the side, don't care much for the slider...
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:06 am

Don't you just love that crap, Titleist? ;)

I just need 5 minutes locked in a room with a few GM engineers .... I'd feel alot better! They've caused me sooooo much grief over the past 5 years! :mad: Cause me to damage more stuff in the process too. I can't tell you how many wrenches I've sent sailing across the barn.

I guess they're desperate for dealership $$$. That strategy is going to cost them LOTS of sales though. I'm done with them. From now on it's pre-'96 for me.
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PostBy: ceccil On: Tue Mar 08, 2011 7:18 pm

SMITTY wrote: From now on it's pre-'96 for me.


Was thinking the same thing recently. I was looking for a beater to drive back and forth to work because I filled the truck up Friday and it cost me $93.00. :shock:

Found a 1982 VW Rabbit on CL. Body looked to be in very good shape with no obvious rust holes. This was looking at pics mind you so in person it could be a wreck. Had 111,000 miles on it. Never could get ahold of the person selling it though.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:17 pm

Phoenix, Tuscon, or anyplace in central to southern AZ is the best place to find older vehicles. There are 60 - 80 year old vehicles still on the road out there with the original paint! It's faded & peeling, but it's still there! The only down side is that any rubber items will be totally smoked -- weatherstripping, seals, gaskets, tires, -- and batteries -- they hate the heat, & usually kick the bucket after 2 short years or less. Alternators & starters tend to live a short life as well. This works fine for me, because I'm not a body man ... I'm a mechanic. I'd have to pay someone to do bodywork, so AZ works for me. Getting the vehicle back up this way from there can be pricey though. Especially now, with $4/gallon gas right around the corner. If your going to buy, do it now!

The next best thing would be any of the southern states. You'll have a bit more corrosion than a vehicle from Phoenix, but they will be MILES ahead of anything from the northeast of similar age. Rubber items will still deteriorate, but not nearly as bad as in the desert. Plenty of oldies down south from coast to coast to bring up north.

My wife has now gone through a whole winter without one single breakdown ... and her vehicle is 22 years old. The Jimmy was only 8 years old when we got it, and every winter I'd be out there at 10PM trying to fix the damn thing so she could go to work in the morning. 2 winters I dealt with that crap! What a turd that thing was!
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:29 pm

It has come to my great understanding in my short tenure at working on my own cars and having built a turbo car in my brother-in-law's garage that: "Those that design and build cars for the general public (GM, Chrysler, Ford....etc...), do not, in fact drive or work on cars themselves. Therefore, they have no idea what is involved with working on them."

After building my Neon (1st Gen. Turbo) I have come to the realization, I hate working on cars. In fact, to solidify this I last weekend decided to finally change a leaky power steering pump on my 1999 Dodge Dakota. Looked simple enough. However, I had trouble getting wrenches on the bolts holding the bracket on. Then once I got everything off the 11+ years of rust and gunk on the bracket and pump I was unable to remove the pulley from the old pump because it had seized to the stem. Yes, I used the correct puller (Miller/SPX power steering pump pulley puller directly from Chrysler). I ended up warping the pulley.

I was then forced to order a new bracket and pulley from Chrysler because I'm so frustrated with the old one that I don't even want to be bothered using the air whizzer to get the pulley off so I can access the retaining bolts for the bracket.
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Re: GMC wins coveted SFB Award for headlamp replacement design!!

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:33 pm

Yeah what a friggin joke. The new thing they're doing is using good quality metal in SOME places .... then completely cheaping out with chinese metal everywhere else!

I was under my '07 today doing an oil change, & just staring at the undercarriage in utter amazement. Some pieces, not even a stain. Others are completely blown out! Stuff that would result in a lawsuit - like strut bolts, ball joints, brake components - all rust free. Pretty much everything else is trashed in just 4 short years. I bought that thing 4 years ago this week. Never again. I could've bought enough old cars to last me the next 50 years for what I've paid out on this thing ... and that's not even counting insurance & taxes! :mad: But I digress .....
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PostBy: Horace On: Tue May 03, 2011 10:08 pm

2008 Dodge Avenger Headlight Replacement:

Open Hood
Find back of light assembly
Turn 1/4 turn
Pull out bulb
Replace bulb
Stick back in
Turn 1/4 turn
Close hood

Didn't even get my hands dirty. Sorry, guys :P
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