I have my base burner (BB)

Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Wed May 11, 2011 11:20 am

The Bride is really a proud one. She wanted a new "hat" for the Spring time. So...impossible to say no to a Golden Bride.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri May 13, 2011 11:45 am

Back with the fire pot liner.
When I talked about making a liner for the Golden B. I was meaning a removable liner. It would be just sitting on the fire pot like a funnel placed in an other funnel. The bottom of the liner would arrive very close to the round outer grate but without touching it. The idea is to protect the cast iron actual fire pot, have an even smaller fire pot and maybe reduce the dust on the lower windows. The desing would be about the same as in a Glenwood ant stove having only the triangular rotating grates. If it works so nice in the Glenwood I must try that in the G.B.... And if it doesn't work as wanted I could remove it easily and find an other idea.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat May 14, 2011 8:46 pm

nortcan wrote:Back with the fire pot liner.
When I talked about making a liner for the Golden B. I was meaning a removable liner. It would be just sitting on the fire pot like a funnel placed in an other funnel. The bottom of the liner would arrive very close to the round outer grate but without touching it. The idea is to protect the cast iron actual fire pot, have an even smaller fire pot and maybe reduce the dust on the lower windows. The desing would be about the same as in a Glenwood ant stove having only the triangular rotating grates. If it works so nice in the Glenwood I must try that in the G.B.... And if it doesn't work as wanted I could remove it easily and find an other idea.


Did you hear from the people about the brush on liner yet? Here's another idea for you to think about which might work easily. Get the circumference where you want the bottom of the liner to be, i.e. right above the teeth in the bottom. Go to to a metal shop and have a heavy, thick steel ring that is about 3/4 of inch wide made to fit where you want the bottom of the liner to go. Put the steel ring in there and the slope of the fire pot should hold it right where you want it. The steel ring will hold the liner above it and will last a long time. It shouldn't be that expensive to do. It's just another idea for you to think about.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun May 15, 2011 7:47 pm

Hi William. The email I sent for the liner product always come back with the mention: message failed...I will try to contact them by phone.
Thanks for the good idea for the liner support. The guy making the welding works for me (we exchange services together) has a small machine shop so that could be done easily, plus the fire pot is just slided in place.
And if done to the bottom of the fire pot just above the round grate? If it doesn't work I could cut the bottom of the liner where you suggested?
But maybe you'r right for the liner. An other good reason in favor of your idea to let the slots open is if I decide to make a magazine/bin??? and a chute, it would probably be better to have the round grate/slots working???
Thanks
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun May 15, 2011 9:43 pm

nortcan wrote:Hi William. The email I sent for the liner product always come back with the mention: message failed...I will try to contact them by phone.
Thanks for the good idea for the liner support. The guy making the welding works for me (we exchange services together) has a small machine shop so that could be done easily, plus the fire pot is just slided in place.
And if done to the bottom of the fire pot just above the round grate? If it doesn't work I could cut the bottom of the liner where you suggested?
But maybe you'r right for the liner. An other good reason in favor of your idea to let the slots open is if I decide to make a magazine/bin??? and a chute, it would probably be better to have the round grate/slots working???
Thanks


Again you do not want to block the slots at the bottom. They are part of the stove's design, it would be better not to line the firepot at all rather than block those slots at the bottom.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon May 16, 2011 11:13 am

William, I can try making the liner the way you described and with the bottom steel support.
Do you know if it's better to arme the cement with some metal wire? I know that V.C. make some refractory parts with metal wires (my last V.C.wood stove had it) but do the different expension from metal and the cement could cause breaking in the cement? Maybe better or worst?
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue May 17, 2011 10:17 am

Wow that is sure a beauty Nortcan! Bryants did the refurb on that? Will this replace the Vigi II or it an add on? Just a magnificent stove. Congrates!
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Tue May 17, 2011 11:26 am

SteveZee wrote:Wow that is sure a beauty Nortcan! Bryants did the refurb on that? Will this replace the Vigi II or it an add on? Just a magnificent stove. Congrates!


Hi SteveZee. Thanks.
Yes Bryant Stove did the refurb on the stove, it was part of the deal. When I told them I was taking the stove, I asked them to take photos when dis-assembling and re-assembling the stove. They made a nice job and it's very nice to talk with them. Always ready to help. If you want you can see them at work on the page N0. 3 of the present subject. You also can see the stove as bought all black and after some parts nickled on the page No. 13.
The Golden Bride will put just a small heat and the Vig II will make the hard job, must be polite with a Golden Bride, LOL. The living room where is the Bride is a small one so I don't need much heat there. Just look at these antique stoves is already a nice heat in the place...And believe me, at first it was ou of the question to have one of these old ""things"" in my house. Now I love them. So much engineering in them... Plus the air moving systm around the Vig is calibrated to distribute the heat in the 3 storeys and gives an even temp. in all the house.
Salutations du Québec
nortcan
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri May 20, 2011 6:41 pm

I have to come back here cause some are saying that they have the best base burners. So my Bride is getting jealous. LOL
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: franco b On: Fri May 20, 2011 7:02 pm

Just keep telling her how beautiful she is. When are you going to consummate that relationship?
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri May 20, 2011 7:14 pm

franco b wrote:Just keep telling her how beautiful she is. When are you going to consummate that relationship?


Franco, you, you really know what to tell to a Bride.
For the more intimate questions, I hope to get on the roof as soon as possible and be able to see Her from an other side...and make the last connection. But it's getting warmer and She does'n like it too hot soooo???? it may be a long honeymoon.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: lobsterman On: Mon May 23, 2011 8:21 am

franco b wrote:Just keep telling her how beautiful she is. When are you going to consummate that relationship?


I think he has already been inside her...
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon May 23, 2011 2:42 pm

OK, just to be less serious...
As already said, I'm planning to make a liner """Inside""" the Bride's fire pot. I made 2 pieces of castable refractory cement for a destruction test. One is just the cement and the other one has rope gasket fiber mixed with the cement. I will heat them with a torch to see if there is some difference between them. I'm wondering if fiber in the cement could helps for reducing cracking. I know cracks are not a big problem but just want to see...
Does someone have tryed arming the cement but not with steel wire????
Thanks, nortcan
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: franco b On: Mon May 23, 2011 3:27 pm

When working with any cement I have found the the best way to avoid cracking is to make the mix just wet enough to work with. Too soupy it will crack on drying. Rather than having it pour easily into a mold I would rather have it so it needs light tamping to fill the mold. Give it plenty of time to dry slowly, and maybe wet it down a few times or coat the mold with oil to prevent absorption of the water from the cement.

The only time I made a mold for a stove I used sheet metal so it was waterproof. It held up very well.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: freetown fred On: Mon May 23, 2011 5:10 pm

I bet the BB can't wait to be fired up next season, so you'll stop pokin' & proddin' her. Rumor has it, she's ticklish :clap: toothy
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