I have my base burner (BB)

Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:13 am

Yeah that was about the size of the "energy log" I left this morning ..... :woot: toothy :D :P



But in all seriousness ... 53 pages!! This thread rocks!! :punk:
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:57 am

Smitty, did you checked if there was some smoke at your chimneys' cap? OH-OH-OH. Must be very hard on the chimney.

About the page number, you certainly know that it's always a long run with a Bride, :whistle:
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Dec 23, 2011 8:15 pm

I can only hope that yours doesn't fall apart after 26 yrs. :clap: toothy Joyeux Noel Pierre ;)
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:35 am

freetown fred wrote:I can only hope that yours doesn't fall apart after 26 yrs. :clap: toothy Joyeux Noel Pierre ;)


Fred, 26 Yrs, are you talking about my age? :shh:

Meme chose pour Noel mon ami et Joyeux Noel.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:30 pm

Hi, as previously said, I was supposed to compare the VigII with the Golden Bride.
But it's almost impossible to do so. Both stoves are in a very different situation: the VigII heat about 2,000 sq ft. and the Bride 160 sq ft. The vig is in a faux foyer having a heat remover draft that is sent to the basement and then the central air handler send the heat all over the house except in the Bride place.

The Bride is a base burner and the Vig has a system doing about the same.
Both have a good ash pan device, but the Bride is a little cleaner to operate. If compare to the Vig before the modifs, the Bride is miles ahead from the Vig.
The grate system is much more better in the Bride. No way to compare. I made lots of improvements on the Vigs' grates but the Bride still far ahead on that point.
Both are top load if the Bride gets the magazine in it. The Vig can't have a magazine in. But the Bride can be front loaded very easily.
The Bride radiates the heat from a lot of micas on 3 faces. Plus it gets the convection mode with the double heater port.
The Bride has a check damper not in the Vig.
The Vig has a thermostat air control, not the Bride, but both work fine for the air control.
The Vig doesn't need MPD while the Bride is made to have one.
The works done on the Bride were minor but on the Vig they were major.
For the look, the antique stoves are in the winners section, if the deco fits with them. But now many decos are often mixed together. The Vig is not an ugly stove.
OK, I stop: no more space. :(
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: echos67 On: Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:44 pm

I think you have 2 great stoves that each have their own place to shine.

Personally, I think you need another stove so you can do some more modifications to it. I always learn from those and save myself alot of time and frustration by watching what others are doing to make improvements.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:49 pm

A comparison of the fuel consumption would be nice to hear about. You've got that VigII running really well on that front. I know it will be hard to compare because the space being heated by each is significantly different. But if you can get an idea on that it would be welcomed.

I also agree - you have two awesome stoves there!

You've also got a really good hand at making these stoves perform!

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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:31 pm

echos67 wrote:I think you have 2 great stoves that each have their own place to shine.

Personally, I think you need another stove so you can do some more modifications to it. I always learn from those and save myself alot of time and frustration by watching what others are doing to make improvements.


You'r a very wise man my friend. And I also like to learn from others.
But the house and the Bride (the real one) wouldn't let an other stove get in if there is not one leaving.
On the Bride (the Golden one) I did not make many modifs, just made the stove more air tight and made a fire pot liner. So I hope the next one entering the house ( as already said keep that :shh: ) will/should be ready to go.I don't care refurbish it but not to have to make a different stove... I love making modifs but I love more burning the stove than modifying it.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:51 pm

DLJ,
the Golden runs at an average of about 150*F /210*F, 24/24 and eats 3 to 4 pound of ant for a 12Hrs period. I can't believe it but it makes it. Now I shake it every 12 Hrs before the loading. The pail I use for the loading is calibrated at the lowest point to 4 pounds and I will have to recalibrate it for the lower loads.

The VigII runs at an average of about 350*F /500*F and eats an average of 10 pounds of ant for a 12Hrs period. Less at the morning and more at evening after shaking.

But it works for my own installation in a super insulated house having 2,200 Sq Ft and a ""special"" heat transfer system. Don't know in an other situation.
I forgot in the previous post: the G.Bride has an over the fire air vent for the gasses burning. Originally the Vig didn't.
Thanks, but for the Golden Bride I don't have much merit cause the stove was so well made originally.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:36 pm

nortcan wrote:DLJ,
the Golden runs at an average of about 150*F /210*F, 24/24 and eats 3 to 4 pound of ant for a 12Hrs period. I can't believe it but it makes it. Now I shake it every 12 Hrs before the loading. The pail I use for the loading is calibrated at the lowest point to 4 pounds and I will have to recalibrate it for the lower loads.

The VigII runs at an average of about 350*F /500*F and eats an average of 10 pounds of ant for a 12Hrs period. Less at the morning and more at evening after shaking.

But it works for my own installation in a super insulated house having 2,200 Sq Ft and a ""special"" heat transfer system. Don't know in an other situation.
I forgot in the previous post: the G.Bride has an over the fire air vent for the gasses burning. Originally the Vig didn't.
Thanks, but for the Golden Bride I don't have much merit cause the stove was so well made originally.


Yea yea yea, 54 pages later on getting the Bride going and you say not much merit on your part for that stove.... Dude, you are clearly selling yourself short!

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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:01 pm

You know dj, the problem with me is because English is not my first language, it takes me a lot of pages to say what you would say in only a few pages.
If you re-read all the pages :lol: ,one by one, you will see that I always repeat about the same things, re- :lol:
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: smithy On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:57 am

Pierre have you tried your bride au natural? "Less the liner" when the homie is cranked up ato bit the heat realy kicks out the lower half. I relies the area you bride heats is small and not that much heat is needed but curious just the same.

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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: SteveZee On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:58 pm

Pierre, remember we speaking about the check damper and how nice it would be to have a lever that opened and closed it without my having to pull the ash pan? Well, today I was shop vacuming around the stove and low and behold where the "elbow" meets the back pipe base, I found a thumb pull that operates the check damper! Sheesh, it was there all the time! :oops: Here is a pix. There was not too much that they didn't think off back in the day!
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:33 pm

smithy wrote:Pierre have you tried your bride au natural? "Less the liner" when the homie is cranked up ato bit the heat realy kicks out the lower half. I relies the area you bride heats is small and not that much heat is needed but curious just the same.

Cheers


No I didn't try the stove without the liner. The small living room beeing only 16 X 10 F, the heat demand is more on the lower side than on the higher one. Even on the coldest days coming on, the stove runs at a low setting and heats the place as steady as I could dream of.
One day William told me that: you will do what you want with that small base burner and honestly I was suspicious about it. I do realise now that he was more than right on about these antique stoves.
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Re: I have my base burner (BB)

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:39 pm

SteveZee wrote:Pierre, remember we speaking about the check damper and how nice it would be to have a lever that opened and closed it without my having to pull the ash pan? Well, today I was shop vacuming around the stove and low and behold where the "elbow" meets the back pipe base, I found a thumb pull that operates the check damper! Sheesh, it was there all the time! :oops: Here is a pix. There was not too much that they didn't think off back in the day!


Very happy for you. And honestly I was very surprised they had not some devices to work the check damper from the outside.

These ""old timers"" should be very happy up there to see how happy we are when using these great Heritages from the past in our so ""advanced"" days. :?:
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