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nortcan
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by nortcan » Fri. Nov. 16, 2012 12:25 pm
smithy wrote:I like the natural recuperation Pierre speaking of the earth I was wondering just the other day when an acquaintance told me how there carbon impact was diminished by an all electric house "connected to the grid of course" what is the impact of building and maintaining the infrastructure least the inefficiency of pushing the power down the line ! My calculation is 27000 lb of coal for electric heat vs 5600 lb of coal for my base-heater . this may have been discussed before but my two-bits worth anyhow.
you have done verry well with your irons my friend, restored beauty !
Thanks smithy.
One other thing that ""bother""me a little about electric ""clean"" solution is all the transfos along the streets, I will see how many there are just in my little street. In the past they were containing some bad oil, but now I just don't know what is in them but are all old transfos out of the work? What did they do with that contaminated oil?
Producing electric power make pollution from the beginning to the end users but not many want to hear about that.
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 9:02 am
Yes the Golden Bride is on duty.
So nice to have the house at = 8Am, out.temp.= -27*C/-16.6*F, inside temp. 22.5*C/72*F. G.B at 125*F and the Sunnyside 400*F...The Paradise here
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by SMITTY » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 9:05 am
Wow - I wish I had half your insulation!
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nortcan
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 9:18 am
SMITTY wrote:Wow - I wish I had half your insulation!
You know Smitty, when I built my house 27 Yrs ago 6"+ insulation instead of 4" was a so low $ difference...but a very big difference now with the steady anth. heat output. Wood was never able to get close to anthracite heat
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by SMITTY » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 9:21 am
Ahh, that explains your warm house! We have less than 4" insulation in most spots ... and alot of it is compressed up against the roof sheathing, wet, and useless. Not to mention all the cold air pouring into the basement from every corner.
This place would be easier to bulldoze and rebuild than to fix ....
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by Keepaeyeonit » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 10:18 am
Hi Pierre, man that Golden Bride is work of art!but that Sunny Side isn't to shabby either
.Take care Barry
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 10:24 am
Keepaeyeonit wrote:Hi Pierre, man that Golden Bride is work of art!but that Sunny Side isn't to shabby either
.Take care Barry
Thanks Barry, these stoves warm me up all year round
Stay warm down there too
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 10:30 am
SMITTY wrote:Ahh, that explains your warm house! We have less than 4" insulation in most spots ... and alot of it is compressed up against the roof sheathing, wet, and useless. Not to mention all the cold air pouring into the basement from every corner.
This place would be easier to bulldoze and rebuild than to fix ....
Yes in some holder houses it can be very difficult and costy to re-insulate and making it more air-tight. I saw many re-insulation works done and the house owners got more problems after it like humidity issue...Some time just small works on the doors,windows and small air leaks can help. Good luck
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by SteveZee » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 10:56 am
Yes Pierre with an old house the best way is to do an audit with one of those infrared camera systems and the leakage fans they use. Then you get a "picture" of exactly where the house is leaking and you can address those areas. For sure your place is well insulated and that makes a huge difference in coal usage and how low you can run those stoves in such cold weather! Bravo!
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by buck24 » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 11:00 am
notcan..... Paradise to me is 78* to 80* down here. Crank up the Bride.
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 2:15 pm
SteveZee wrote:Yes Pierre with an old house the best way is to do an audit with one of those infrared camera systems and the leakage fans they use. Then you get a "picture" of exactly where the house is leaking and you can address those areas. For sure your place is well insulated and that makes a huge difference in coal usage and how low you can run those stoves in such cold weather! Bravo!
You got the pics Steve. And most old houses would be completly ""destroyed"" from an heavy out/inside insulation job, and it could be very costy too. In Qc there are some programs to have an old house inspected and having the IR inspection so the insulation program gives good results with few damages to the house aspects. They give advices and when the job is done they come back and re-make the IR check-up then if all is OK you get the $$$
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by nortcan » Wed. Jan. 23, 2013 2:19 pm
buck24 wrote:notcan..... Paradise to me is 78* to 80* down here. Crank up the Bride.
No problem my friend, just ask the bride oops the Bride to give more heat and the Paradise will be there
The present numbers I gave on the post are only the ones for the diet times
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by SteveZee » Thu. Jan. 24, 2013 7:55 am
nortcan wrote:SteveZee wrote:Yes Pierre with an old house the best way is to do an audit with one of those infrared camera systems and the leakage fans they use. Then you get a "picture" of exactly where the house is leaking and you can address those areas. For sure your place is well insulated and that makes a huge difference in coal usage and how low you can run those stoves in such cold weather! Bravo!
You got the pics Steve. And most old houses would be completly ""destroyed"" from an heavy out/inside insulation job, and it could be very costy too. In Qc there are some programs to have an old house inspected and having the IR inspection so the insulation program gives good results with few damages to the house aspects. They give advices and when the job is done they come back and re-make the IR check-up then if all is OK you get the $$$
I'm going to try that this year Pierre. Try to make it easier for the stoves and my coal pile. The inside storm windows have helped so I'll make the rest of the windows so I have them all done. Then it will be the doors I know for sure need some work. I did do the attic years ago with the rolls of FG between the rafters/joists.
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by nortcan » Thu. Jan. 24, 2013 8:40 am
Attics are usually one of the best place to begin insulation works, easy to reach the place...
This night, upper in Abitibi, they got -32*C/-25*F. Here we were luckey, only -25*C/-13*F
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by Photog200 » Fri. Feb. 08, 2013 10:48 am
smithy wrote:Well you got a stove there maby 12" - 13" firepot . Now I am no authority on stoves butt that hasemt prevented me from sharing my opinions. First you got six coats of paint on the parts after steelwooling for days. My stove took 10 hours of sandblasting to remove some well intended paint. Also did you paint then assemble ? Or did you use refractory cement against clean fresh iron. Did you slow cure the stove before painting if not then it needs redone.
I have a friend looking for a mica baseburner but he will need a big one. If its all you say it is parts wise
I would say 1100.00
I guess I am clueless to the restoration of these beautiful old stoves. My question is if we are not suppose to use the high temp paint on them, what kind of finish is used on them?