smoke coming out of door

smoke coming out of door

PostBy: mprov On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:29 pm

I installed my new pocono yesterday and love it.But when it lit the stove there was a little bit of smoke comming out of the door and the door was closed tight.Is this normal? the gaskets all seem to be placed correctly.I can sometimes smell a little bit of sulfer.Is this because the stove is new. Should the door be completly air tight?
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Re: smoke coming out of door

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:56 pm

Have you checked chimney draft using a manometer???

You will experience 'smoke' when first starting up a NEW stove as the paint is curing, but it doesn't smell like sulfur, has more of a chemical smell to it...

A good test for tightness of doors/gaskets is to close the door on a dollar bill, if you can easily pull out the dollar bill then things aren't so tight, if hard to pull out the bill, then just right!!!

But, remember that having even the tightest doors is NOT a substitute for poor chimney draft... Regardless you must get the gasses out of the stove.... Plus, I know its been warm outside here in S.E. Pa. the last few days along with rain today, that will decrease any draft that you have if you are working with a marginal chimney to begin with...
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Re: smoke coming out of door

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:01 pm

My experience with my Poke suggests that the welded on rim may not be perfectly flat suggesting a small gap with the gasket when closed. I found this out when starting the stove (with very little draft) that the smoke from the starting bag would "wisp" out of the gap THOUGH once a little draft started after a minute or so there was no smoke. I discussed this with LL and we agree that this extremely small gap is not a problem since the stove box draft should alway be prevalent.

NOW, if you are smelling sulfur near the gap with the stove at running temp, you have a draft problem. Today's temp of 55 F and rain is not condusive for a excellent draft suggesting a shut down. What is your baro set to ?

LL did say that you should pretty much have a .02 min draft in the stove body at temp, they said a small draft hole ~3/16 or so drilled in the side slightly below the ash pan top edge is a good place to drill it though watch out for the angled uprites on the side interiors. If you take a reading and the draft is less than .015- .02 , you may want to shut down . In situations like this, a digital CO detector is advised,as some are capable (personal experience) of indicating a visual PPM well below the alarm level if the correct button is pushed (Kidde KN -COPP-3). Personal experience , I did a really quick vacuming of ash thru the baro and for yucks, checked the PPM...16 ppm...so this model is quite sensitive based on my limited experience.

When you are done taking the stove body draft you can slip a line on line tight fitting bolt in the hole as to not loose draft from the hole.

Are you at a very high altitude? Sometimes the combusion air needs to be lowered via a plate over the blower inlet?

Bee careful !!
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Re: smoke coming out of door

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Sun Mar 06, 2011 4:10 pm

mprov wrote:I installed my new pocono yesterday and love it.But when it lit the stove there was a little bit of smoke comming out of the door and the door was closed tight.Is this normal? the gaskets all seem to be placed correctly.I can sometimes smell a little bit of sulfer.Is this because the stove is new. Should the door be completly air tight?


MPROV, your're in eastern , probably a few miles from me , I just left you a PM with my tel #. See the top of the forum page ,you'll see "1 message", click and read.
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Re: smoke coming out of door

PostBy: Matthaus On: Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:41 pm

mprov wrote:I installed my new pocono yesterday and love it.But when it lit the stove there was a little bit of smoke comming out of the door and the door was closed tight.Is this normal? the gaskets all seem to be placed correctly.I can sometimes smell a little bit of sulfer.Is this because the stove is new. Should the door be completly air tight?


The stove is not airtight, there are small leaks here and there, the draft takes care if this. As has been suggested any coal gas smell would be probably draft related. As already stated, when new the stove will "cure" the paint for some period of time which smells slightly but other than that no smell should be present when running. Is the coal wet in the hopper (if you put it in dry and it gets wet) or moisture in the lid? If so this is an indication of insufficient draft, the barometric damper should be fully closed when any Sulpher smell is present, if not you are losing draft and most probably that is the cause of the smell.

As has already been suggested, PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU HAVE TWO WORKING CO DETECTORS AND BE CAREFUL!
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Re: smoke coming out of door

PostBy: mprov On: Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:54 pm

Thanks for all the info.No more smoke and no more smells.I wish i started burning coal years ago.
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