Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:23 am

I just talked to a guy who has some black locust he wants to sell me. The reason it sounds good is that he says this wood is very dry and Ive heard great things about locust. I have a lot of free firewood in my driveway right now but its fresh green sumac and its over a year from being seasoned enough for my preference - and I need some to finish out the month of March.

I told him about my wanting to get a Blaze King and he said that Locust burns too hot for CATS and could damage my stove ?

Coming from a guy who is trying to sell me wood - I figure he has no reason to lie but Ive not read this anywhere.

Anybody know anything about woods that burn too hot for a CAT stove ?
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:58 pm

just got my load of Black locust and im burning some in the 30NC It burns so hot I have to crank on the back fan to take some of the heat away.
This stuff is really well seasoned - produces no smoke- and a blue flame. What a difference burning seasoned hardwood makes comparaed to burning scrap pine and old boards.
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:05 am

Turn your air feed back and you'll get less heat. No different than stepping on your vehicles gas peddle; the more fuel mixture you feed (air+fuel) the faster more energy.

  • About the logs in your driveway, we talked about this before. If it's as big as reported, it's not sumac ;)
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:39 am

I'm still trying to wrap my head around the government putting CATs in stoves ....... :shock: :roll:

Good lord .... dare I ask what's next? :sick:
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: david78 On: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:35 pm

Dogs?? :roll:
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:04 pm

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:This stuff is really well seasoned - produces no smoke- and a blue flame.

I sounds like it is burning so hot and clean the catalyst is not needed for now. But I don't think it will hurt the cat; they can run above 1800 degrees.
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:47 am

rberq wrote:
smokeyCityTeacher wrote:This stuff is really well seasoned - produces no smoke- and a blue flame.

I sounds like it is burning so hot and clean the catalyst is not needed for now. But I don't think it will hurt the cat; they can run above 1800 degrees.


hmm...that makes sense. The CAT only benefits you when it has some smoke to burn. If you are not producing smoke you don't get the benefit. Yep I think you are right on.

I read similar things about burning Anthracite vs Bit. Some people are putting secondary burn tubes (just like the wood stoves) in their bit burners and they are getting great 2ndary burn cause the BIt makes smoke. They dont do it in the Anthracite burners - and my guess is that its because the Anthracite doesn't smoke.

Even w/out smoke I love the way this dry locust lets me to shut the air down as far as possible and still get a clean blue flame slow burn
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Mar 24, 2011 6:38 pm

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Even w/out smoke I love the way this dry locust lets me to shut the air down as far as possible and still get a clean blue flame slow burn

Locust. Coal without waiting 300 million years....
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:08 pm

rberq wrote:
smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Even w/out smoke I love the way this dry locust lets me to shut the air down as far as possible and still get a clean blue flame slow burn

Locust. Coal without waiting 300 million years....


Thats what I always said, it is kinda like burning coal...
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:37 pm

Coal will eat the CAT.
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Fri Mar 25, 2011 1:59 pm

Seems a shame to burn such high quality wood during the shoulder season. Should find some poplar or basswood to use and save the seasoned locust for colder weather. Do you know that black locust is the wood that rates the highest on the BTU chart per cord. Much more than oak. :)
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:57 pm

Makes good fence post too.
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:35 pm

stokerscot wrote:Seems a shame to burn such high quality wood during the shoulder season. Should find some poplar or basswood to use and save the seasoned locust for colder weather. Do you know that black locust is the wood that rates the highest on the BTU chart per cord. Much more than oak. :)


That statement puzzles me because I was always taught that wood's BTU is based on its density. Locust is not the densest yet it is rated higher than many denser woods as burning the hottest ?

Why isnt simply the densest wood the most BTU producing ?
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:39 pm

coaledsweat wrote:Coal will eat the CAT.


but it seems to feed the steel tubes nicley if its makin smoke

2ndary burn does not seem to care what is making the smoke.

I still dont see why stove makers dont put the 2ndary tubes in bit burners
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Re: Locus burning too hot for CAT stove ?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:58 pm

It's funny how the mind works after a few drinks .................


........................... and on that note:

Cats belong OUTSIDE the stove. Not IN it. :D :D :D

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