Coal in Super-Sacks?

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Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:37 am

A discussion of a fine EFM 520 boiler restoration utilising coal in super-sacks in another thread has me thinking that these would be ideal for my situation. Are there any anthracite sources that ship coal in super sacks?
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: theo On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:58 am

You should be able to buy the sacks and fill them yourself if you have to, i was thinking the same thing. We get carbon in these sacks were i work at, they are 1 ton sacks. We lift and move them with a hyster. I'am going to be looking for some of these sacks, anyone know where to get them from? Also the carbon they get in these sacks are fines, we mix them in with our coal and burn them in the kilns, wonder if they would work in the stocker stove? i hear they really boost the btu up. I'll have to try to get more info on this. I know that this stuff is really messy to work with, its like a black powder.
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 10:58 am

I doubt they sell coal in super sacks, it would be more expensive than bulk anyway. At my work they have barimum they buy in supersacks, they come on a skid shrink wrapped, their are lifting straps at the top of the bag and about a 4" hose in the bottom with a knot to untie to let the material flow. You could build portable wooden boxes on top of a skid and use the pallet jack the same way as vermontday does with the supersack.
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:08 am

If their is any scrap metal salvage yards near you, check for a steel flo bin, we use these at work for sand and they have a slide plate in the bottom to open and closehttp://www.flo-bin.com/flo-bin/
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:15 am

AA130FIREMAN wrote:If their is any scrap metal salvage yards near you, check for a steel flo bin, we use these at work for sand and they have a slide plate in the bottom to open and closehttp://www.flo-bin.com/flo-bin/


The Flo-Bin looks like a really great idea!

I found several sources that claim they ship "filtration media" grade anthracite in 2,000 lb. supersacks. What is that? I assume it's expensive and not for burning use.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:21 am

lsayre wrote:
I found several sources that claim they ship "filtration media" grade anthracite in 2,000 lb. supersacks. What is that? I assume it's expensive and not for burning use.

I would believe that is for water filtering ????? ;)
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: theo On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:27 am

The flo-bin seems cool, wonder what the price would be? We also get grinding aid in totes where i work at. They are plastic cont. that have liquid in them, look like they hold about 500 gal. They are sitting on a metal pallet. I think i can get a few of them and cut the tops off to put coal in them. Also see them on craig list for like $75.00
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:33 am

Here dupont has 865 for sale at $100 each, might have to take them all ??? That would be alot of coal, I would hate to see what they cost new
http://www.dynaprice.com/dupontsales/iinfo.cfm?ItemNo=86156
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:36 am

330 gallon (44 cubic foot) plastic totes in metal cages (firmly attached to plastic pallets) are relatively inexpensive, even if purchased new. I wonder if anthracite pea would flow out of the 2" ball valve discharge of one of these? The top could be cut off to facilitate easy loading. They are dirt cheap if purchased cleaned and reconditioned.
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:41 am

lsayre wrote: I wonder if anthracite pea would flow out of the 2" ball valve discharge of one of these?

NO :lol: The flow bins at work have at least a 12" x 12" opening on the bottom, and some of the real powdery sand (like baby powder) will not always flo with out assistance :mad:
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: theo On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:45 am

You could cut a hole in the side and use a auger to get it out,lots of possibilties, depends on how much you want to spend and how much you want to tinker with it. Fireman, any idea how much the flo-bin would hold?
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 20, 2011 11:48 am

What is the capacity of a Flo-Bin container?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
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Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:35 pm

I take it that since there have been no pointers to a source, no one sells anthracite directly to the public in supersacks. The potential here for someone to get the leg up on the competition is huge. Are there any mines that canvas this forum for ideas and trends?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:42 pm

Try the Jeddo Mine Website. They sell 1-ton bags. :)
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Re: Coal in Super-Sacks?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Mar 21, 2011 9:51 pm

Thanks! I just emailed Jeddo. Is their coal any good?
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Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

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