Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?


Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri May 27, 2011 7:11 pm

markviii wrote:
SMITTY wrote: I have a CFL motion light too ..... and it SUCKS in the winter time. When something trips it, your supposed to SEE it ... not wait 7 minutes till it's fully bright. Stupid. Not worth the money I might save on electricity. How about a gun that takes 7 minutes to fire? Makes about as much sense.


I had a short experience with a CFL in an outside light, it was worthless. It took forever to put out any light, and the bulb died in about 30 days. Now I have a two 100 watt High Pressure Sodium dusk-till-dawn lights on poles...I just let 'em blaze all night, every night. No more guests backing out on the lawn because the couldn't see, and it is easy to keep an eye on the "hounds" when they go out at night.


I can see your 2X100W from the Canadian Borders. LOL
The other day I had a CFL light burnt out on the office's desk waiting to go back to the store(for recuperation) and it rolls down and break off. I forgot all the ""precautions"" we are supposed to take when it arrives=open a window, put on gloves...and I threw it in the garbage tray. The worst I imaginated after a while is if a child has been near the desk...yes all lights breaking are dangerous but the mercury and maybe some other products in these lights could be very dangerous. They removed the thermometers containing mercury but it's OK for the lights????????????
I think I also will be stocking up bulbs. nortcan
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat May 28, 2011 10:52 am

What really sucks is when I drop my 8' fluorescent tube lights out in the barn. What a cloud that makes!! :lol:
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: pine grove coal user On: Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:23 pm

I like CFL's but only in certain applications. The rest of the locations use incadescents. In our house we have about 10 CFL's in use. They are in lights that stay on the longest and are in the warm. On and off and cold locations seem to cause premature failures.
I've been hoarding bulbs. I thought I was the only one.
Right now I have about 25 boxes of each, 100w, 75w, 60w, and 40w. Everytime I go to the grocery store I buy two boxes.
Unit the ban starts I want to have 30 boxes of 100w and 75w. We have more time for the rest. Hopefully after the next election the new president will sign the bill rescinding the ban.
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Jun 27, 2011 8:32 am

I wouldn`t count on the next Pres. rescinding the ban, for some reason that never seems to happen. Guess it takes al of Gov. combined to change anything, so far they can`t even realize that there has been a change in power. I was at an auction a week ago & a bunch of light bulbs, cases of all sizes, went for a really low price. It was toward the end & they went as one unit rather than by the case, guess the auctioneer was getting tired & had already made his money.
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:00 am

CFL's will probably be the next 'asbestos'. (Right behind fiberglass insulation) They are not the best idea science has ever come up with. I have a few LED lights in the house, and with 50,000 hr life expectancy, instant on, and NO heat signature, what is not to like? They are very inexpensive to operate, and most likely the next 'big thing'.

The price? Hang on to your family jewels.....can you say $40 to start for 100w bulbs.......OMG! ....but they actually do work as advertized!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :idea: :idea: :idea:

An electrical distributor friend has sold me some 200W CFL's, so I can actually see something when I turn them on!!!

Anyone else tripped over furniture or items not well illuminated while trying to use 60w equivalent CFL's?
We now charge extra for service calls that have them in the basement...because we have to bring our own high intensity lighting to actually see anything safely. Perhaps we can get some refurbed miner lights to enter basements with some degree of safety.
Whelan Corp is close by, so it's time for a 'safety call'. :!:
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:39 am

whistlenut wrote:CFL's will probably be the next 'asbestos'. (Right behind fiberglass insulation)


My house will probably be condemned if things continue down this road. I've got mercury vapor lights, asbestos pipe insulation, rock wool in the walls, fiberglass in the attic, lead solder in the boiler piping, lead paint on the roof, and a "toxic" pile of coal ash in the backyard!
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Jun 28, 2011 10:27 pm

I don't even want to say what I have in the barn .... :twisted: .... except for the two 200 watt Westinghouse bulbs that I am the proud owner of. I fire them up in the outside lights on earth day, with a sign pointing out that they're 200 watts each. :D
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Jun 29, 2011 7:32 am

I was talking to an old timer yesterday who told me that back in WW2 the machine tool industry through the Conn River Valley from the ocean to Canada was a Black Out zone because of the fear of loosing the companies there to enemy bombing. That makes a person think for a second or two about what it was like years ago.

Today we have Skyline Pollution, Noise Pollution, Air Pollution and a host of other issues......who knew that smitty was creating a satellite heat and light signature for our foes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :idea: :idea: CFL's still suck!!!!
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: homecomfort On: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:00 pm

[quote][/quote] " not hurting anybody ? when we as consumers WASTE energy, like electricity, people ARE being hurt. half of our electricity is generated with polluting coal.
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: Willis On: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:33 pm

homecomfort wrote:
" not hurting anybody ? when we as consumers WASTE energy, like electricity, people ARE being hurt. half of our electricity is generated with polluting coal.


"Polluting coal"???? Are you sure you are on the right forum?
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Aug 09, 2011 7:36 pm

I know right? I think some people just come on here to ruffle feathers .... :roll:




And by the way homecomfort ..... your wrong.

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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: MarsHill On: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:41 pm

American Coal Foundation

"Nine out of every 10 tons of coal mined in the United States today is used to generate electricity, and more than half of the electricity used in this country is coal-generated electricity. How is coal converted into electricity?"


http://www.teachcoal.org/aboutus.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.



And from the US D of E,

America has more coal than any other fossil fuel resource. The United States also has more coal reserves than any other single country in the world. In fact, just over 1/4 of all the known coal in the world is in the United States. The United States has more coal that can be mined than the rest of the world has oil that can be pumped from the ground.

Currently, coal is mined in 26 of the 50 states.

Coal is used primarily in the United States to generate electricity. In fact, it is burned in power plants to produce more than half of the electricity we use. A stove uses about half a ton of coal a year. A water heater uses about two tons of coal a year. And a refrigerator, that's another half-ton a year. Even though you may never see coal, you use several tons of it every year!


http://fossil.energy.gov/education/ener ... _coal.html

The posted pic seems to be from National Grid --- the local (for me) utility in upstate NY.


You all may be crazy, but I have a small supply of 100W.

Just 'cauz your crazy doesn't mean your wrong....
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: dlj On: Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:09 pm

Yea, well our current electric production using coal is about to change directions... I just got this note... Not good...

dj
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Dozens Of Coal Factories Forced To Shut Down In Response To Strict EPA Regulation

Dina Spector, On Tuesday August 9, 2011, 2:38 pm EDT

Electric utilities announced the closure of dozens of coal-fired plants today in response to new EPA regulations mandating facilities to lower toxic interstate emissions. Among them:

· American Electric Power Company said it would retire nearly 6,000 MW of generating capacity.

· Duke Energy said it would retire its 862 MW factory in New Richmond, Ohio.

· Georgia Power, a subsidiary of The Southern Company, said it would close an 871 MW generator by 2018, 18 years before the end of its useful life.

The nation's utility and coal industries have been battling the EPA since July, after the environmental agency replaced the Clean Air Interstate Rule with stricter standards requiring coal-fired power plants in 27 states to slash thousands of tons of pollutants that drift across state borders.

The Cross-State Air Pollution Rule has received nothing but negative feedback from the affected energy industry, which argues the stricter federal emission law will result in higher costs for electricity and massive loss of U.S. jobs. The plan will also require billions of dollars to retrofit power plants with clean coal technologies.

According to a study prepared by the National Economic Research Associates (NERA), the legislation is among the most expensive EPA rules ever imposed on coal-fueled power plants that will cause electric rates to skyrocket by as much as 23 percent and lead to nationwide employment losses totaling 1.4 million job-years by 2020.

Power-plant closures are expected to increase in the coming months, as utilities complete their cost analyses of complying with the Cross-State rule, according to Industrial Info Resources. The EPA rule has already forced coal facilities in Ohio, North Carolina, Georgia, and Texas to retire old units, rather burden the expense of installing pollution-control equipment.

The coal industry maintains that the EPA doesn't seem to care about the economic damage new regulations will cause.

“Many of these severe impacts would hit families living in states already facing serious economic challenges,” said Steve Miller, president of the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity.

The EPA believes the annual costs to clean up the coal industry and improve air quality throughout the eastern United States are worth the health rewards. The organization estimates that by 2014, the new legislation will have achieved up to $280 billion in annual health benefits, in addition to preventing up to 34,000 premature deaths, 26,000 hospital and emergency room visits, and 240,000 cases of aggravated asthma.

Along with automobile exhaust, The Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC), lists out-of-state emissions as one of the Northeast's most serious air pollution problems, according to a report by City Limits.

The EPA regulations are set to go into effect Oct. 7, 2011, with the first emissions reductions to be phased in as early as 2012.
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Re: Anyone else stocking up on 100w bulbs?...or am I just crazy?

PostBy: tsb On: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:02 pm

The EPA regulations are set to go into effect Oct. 7, 2011, with the first emissions reductions to be phased in as early as 2012.

I think I'll burn a few tires in celebration of the event.
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