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Post by PaWoodDog » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 5:21 pm

This the way the wind blows on a normal day.

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Post by tsb » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 5:26 pm

Post a picture of the indoor piping.
Does the chimney draw well on a cold clear windless night ?
Did you try it with the cap off ?

 
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Post by PaWoodDog » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 6:15 pm

The interior piping comes out to a elbow, goes up 11" and elbows into the thimble. Cold winter nights the draft is the same. I got scaffold today and I am going up 6 more block. I'm done worrying & thinking about it. :mad: :D

I tried it for months with the cap off when I first had the flue put up and then someone told me to buy a cap & it may help fix my problem.

 
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Post by tsb » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 6:19 pm

Do you have a radon sucker, or an attic power vent ?
Just trying to think why a nice chimney like that
wouldn't draw at least some of the time.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 6:56 pm

BECAUSE IT"s NOT HIGH ENOUGH---Git er done PaWD, if it don't fix the problem,you can come upstate & bitch slap me. toothy But, you're right tsb, the chimney is cute, it just wasn't built properly

 
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Post by Rob R. » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 7:08 pm

I agree that the chimney needs more height. Get the top of the chimney a foot or two over the peak.

The chimney that serves my EFM is about 30' high and is roughly even with the roofline, even with a 9x13" flue it will suck the chrome off a trailer ball.

 
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Post by tsb » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 7:23 pm

List of things that can dick up a chimney
Radon sucker
Attic power vent
Range hood power vent
Clothes dryer vent
LP hot water heater power vent.
Bathroom power vents.
Another chimney.


 
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Post by LsFarm » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 8:41 pm

:D :D :shock: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Rick 386 » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 10:26 pm

Berlin wrote:hey now, I like my siding like I like my women, low maintenance and cheap :lol:
And made of vinyl ????? Sorry Berlin, I couldn't resist that open door !!!!! :rofl: :yes: :nana:

I've got to throw my 2 cents in here. Several years ago I had an issue with a liner installed in our chimney that failed severely. It was member Berlin who suggested that I just remove the failed liner and continue to use the existing chimney as it was. We have NOT had an issue since. And for that advice I thank him. I was a little concerned at first as I had no knowledge of why the liner was installed in the first place. But removing that liner did the trick.

Get those extra blocks in place, get yourself a manometer, and let us know the results.

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Post by oliver power » Sun. Mar. 27, 2011 11:37 pm

No doubt, the chimney needs to go higher, no matter what. I do have to ask one question though. How Far Is Your Stove Pipe Stuck Into The Chimney????? Not against the far side of the chimney, I hope........ Sometimes this little "site un-seen" situation is over looked. I've seen it happen............ We all assumed the pipe is installed correctly. I do have to agree with tsb when he mentions that the chimney should have draw on a non-windy day. After all, it is about 24 feet tall. Lets say 20 feet from the top of stove. He should have some kind of draw. Could it be, something is blocking the chimney. Pipe pushed in too far is one thought. If the hole around the pipe is oversized, could be drawing air around the pipe, instead of through the stove. piece of tile, shingle, dead coon, birds nest, etc.. We know the chimney is too short but, I think we should step back and take another look at this. When someone is as persistant as tsb, it catches my attention. Makes me take another look at things. And I think we may have been too quick to solve this "Bad Drafting Chimney".

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Mar. 28, 2011 9:01 am

When I see someone as persistent as tsb, I am reminded of my big Lab dog on a bone. toothy All in jest my friend--this is a guy who stated he built the house all but the chimney & I just project that he has enough common sense to check the obvious. Yes, the pipe being too far in the thimble could well cause this problem. Still, the chimney is WAY to short but with the process of elimination, I would get the chimney right to start with before anything. I'm sure PaWD is going to keep in touch on the progress & who knows--I may be getting bitch slapped in the near future, but, it always pays to start at the beginning of any situation. He did state that there were no obstructions in the chimney.

 
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Post by MURDOC1 » Mon. Mar. 28, 2011 9:36 am

oliver power wrote:Pipe pushed in too far is one thought. If the hole around the pipe is oversized, could be drawing air around the pipe, instead of through the stove. piece of tile, shingle, dead coon,
Since when was Santa Clause a black man???

Get those blocks up there, it needs that additional height...

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Mar. 28, 2011 9:59 am

:clap: toothy Me bad :whistle:

 
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Post by Berlin » Mon. Mar. 28, 2011 3:26 pm

Rick 386 wrote:
Berlin wrote:hey now, I like my siding like I like my women, low maintenance and cheap :lol:
And made of vinyl ????? Sorry Berlin, I couldn't resist that open door !!!!! :rofl: :yes: :nana:

Rick
Point to you, sir.

 
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Post by oliver power » Mon. Mar. 28, 2011 6:56 pm

freetown fred wrote:When I see someone as persistent as tsb, I am reminded of my big Lab dog on a bone. toothy All in jest my friend--this is a guy who stated he built the house all but the chimney & I just project that he has enough common sense to check the obvious. Yes, the pipe being too far in the thimble could well cause this problem. Still, the chimney is WAY to short but with the process of elimination, I would get the chimney right to start with before anything. I'm sure PaWD is going to keep in touch on the progress & who knows--I may be getting bitch slapped in the near future, but, it always pays to start at the beginning of any situation. He did state that there were no obstructions in the chimney.
Yes Fred, we all know the chimney needs to go higher. That should be done no matter what. Picture this; The pipe is pushed too far into the chimney. he pulls the pipe out, looks up the chimney with mirror. No obstructions! So, he slides the pipe back in too far again. He didn't see anything blocking the chimney. Also, too big of hole in chimney, air can be drawn around the pipe, not through the stove. A little insulation would cure that. I once had a time my shop chimney just wasn't drawing good. Stove (not hitzer) didn't seem to get hot like it should. I couldn't figure why I had no draw on a chimney that always had good draw. I was baffled. I forget how I discovered the problem. Here is what happened; The stove pipe rotted off at the point where it plugged into the bottom of the metal chimney. It was free standing in place, but no longer connected. Due to shadows, I couldn't see the 1/2 inch gap between the pipe, and chimney. Or, maybe the pipe was connected in the front, but rotted off on the back side. I forget now. Which ever it was, shadows prevented me from seeing the problem. It looked connected. The chimney was drawing air around the pipe, not through the stove. Remember, this chimney is 24 feet tall. It should have some kind of draw. You can add another 24 feet to the chimney. If air is not being drawn through the stove, it won't work.


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