RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:24 am

They are supposed to give 4X for 1X when on the temps stated? They also claim that the inverter models can make even better and on colder temps?
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride


Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:38 am

coalkirk wrote:
franco b wrote:it produces more heat than if the electricity were used as resistance heating instead of powering the heat pump. That's why they are used.


Well I'm sure someone smarter than me will chime in here but I don't think that true. Electric resistant heat is 100% efficient, heat pumps are not.


Yes the resistant heater is 100 percent efficient but if you use that same amount of power to power a heat pump to extract heat from the air you will produce more heat than the resistance heater. If this were not true nobody would use one. The difference is where the heat is coming from. You are not creating heat with the heat pump, but taking it from the air and the warmer the air the more efficiently it will work.

There are heat pump hot water heaters too that use less electric than pure electric powered heaters for the same amount of heated water.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:36 pm

Well put franco b a heat pump doesn't make heat it uses refrigeration to move heat from outside to the inside. You know how a a/c units evaporator coil in the house removes heat from the air in a living space and dumps it outside that's why the condenser unit blows out hot air.

A heat pump does just the opposite of a a/c unit the evaporator is out side and the condenser coil is inside.
carlherrnstein
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: combustioneer model 77B
Coal Size/Type: pea stoker/Ohio bituminous

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:59 pm

nortcan wrote:can produce more energy than it consume to produce heat when the outside temp. is about 5*C or above.?


The fuel source for the heat is the air, it's not the electric. When you compress air and anything else that can be compressed you're also compressing the heat energy in it. If you want a simple analogy it's just like mining, instead of using a machine to mine BTU's in coal you're using a machine to mine BTU's from the air.

A heat pumps efficiency versus standard electric depends on the outside air temperature but it can be 3X as much, that's why they are given efficiency ratings higher than 100%.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:45 pm

I just don't get why you guys are debating this marvelous Reto-Fit Device that Tommy from St. Croix ,Minnesota(Northern Virgin Islands) has layed at your feet. I've been heating a 3 room 1800 Square foot Ranch home this entire past summer using only a Zippo Lighter hooked up to a railcar full of good 'ol Ronsol Lighter Fluid that Freetown Fred got me for Father's Day. Wife thinks I'm a Flamin' Genius ! Thanx,Tommy ! :crazy:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Blower Model Coal Chubby 1982-Serial#0097
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni ! / Nut
Other Heating: Pro-Pain Forced Air

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:47 pm

Quick Footnote and Follow-Up: I'm Going To Sincerely Burn In Hell For This One !
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Blower Model Coal Chubby 1982-Serial#0097
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni ! / Nut
Other Heating: Pro-Pain Forced Air

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:54 am

Nah HB ,just a little good clean fun :funny: I mean if ya dress like the village idiot ya gotta expect a few snide comments ;) By the way Ive invented a way to make water run uphill,NO PUMP!!!!I call it anti-gravity $3.99 a can.....
waldo lemieux
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: s-20

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: johnjoseph On: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:11 pm

I just read this thread for the first time and it was absolutely entertaining....Especially Hampden Bobs comment.... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
johnjoseph
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Other Heating: pellet stove, oil boiler


Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Jan 07, 2015 9:30 pm

How the heck did I miss this one! :) too funny. :lol:
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: EPugs45 On: Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:18 pm

Do you think he is playing the part of all these new members crediting his system? Give me a break. :roll:
EPugs45
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Coal Size/Type: Nut Coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace/Propane Stove

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: bmdetesta On: Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:24 pm

Well to say. I am not a new member.

I own an a Alaska Channing III. Have owned it for 5 years.

It has done the job it is made for.

Me being a gaget guy..

I saw different ways to squeese more heat out of my stove.

I first put a jacket around my stove and duct it to my cold air return .

This house is a ranch with 1500 Sq. Ft plus basement.

Was looking at magic heat for extra heat but not enough return for the effort..

Saw Crosslink Kit and this caught my attention.


Was lucky

I found a used kit Contacted Tom at Crosslinkconversion and he helped me through the install

Needless to say If you waist your time bad mouthing this Amazing Heat Reclaiming Hot Water Heater . You must have nothing better to do.


It heats my hot water for my domestic needs .


It heats my house and it also heats my garage.


My wife is thrilled she can now get her basement back dust free.

Because it is in the garage.



If You want to bad mouth somebody Because your thoughts perceive your words; then be sure all your facts are accurate.

If you have any questions on this topic please free to contact me or I will be glad to demonstrate to all of you disblievers this kit does work.

I am in the 15601 Zip Code area Greensburg Pa


Thank you bmdetesta
bmdetesta
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Crosslink Conversion
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Oil Forced Air Backup
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska channing iii -
Stove/Furnace Model: Crosslink Conversion

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:16 pm

Ok so you heat a 1500 sq ft house, how big is your garage? How many people in your house? What temp do u keep your house and garage at?
hotblast1357
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: New Yorker WC 90
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: just peter On: Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:26 pm

yeh and i am dutch and speak fluent english.
and allso beliefe in santa clause.

Peter
just peter
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Weso 225 C3, Susler Altan, Wasseralfingen 440, Susler Altan
Coal Size/Type: bituminous coal,
Stove/Furnace Make: Susler, Weso, Wasseralfingen,
Stove/Furnace Model: Altan, 225C tile stove

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:14 pm

I have been heating 2 houses & a 30 x 40 repair shop +DHW for both houses with just 1 of those nite lites that only use $.03 of electric for the yr. We found that by setting mirrors just rite & reflecting the lite & heat multiple times ,the heat output is equal to 25 tons of anthracite.Detailed plans of this set-up are available for only $5000,forum special for the winter season is only $2500,think about that.... 1/2 price for a system that is easily worth at least $15000. No maintenance other than replacing the nite lite every 3-4 yrs & occasionally replacing a mirror that some sloppy person breaks.This system is so much better than the reto-fit that the op & his cohorts are pushing. At the current 1/2 price of only $2500,we will only sell the existing plans that have been printed b4 Christmas,limited quantity so step right up,get your heating system plans today.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ :roll: toothy toothy toothy :rofl:
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: RETO-FIT a stove to Conserve Energy and save money

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:30 pm

bmdetesta wrote:
It heats my hot water for my domestic needs .

It heats my house and it also heats my garage.

bmdetesta


You have discovered why people began installing central heating systems over 100 years ago.

I am curious - how much did your stoker stove and coil conversion kit cost?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy