Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun May 29, 2011 1:02 pm

This issue can be flogged a few more times, but looking for the 'PERFECT' burn is best left at the laboratory. Red ash clinkers more, white ash is not noticeably different over the course of a year. A blend is as perfect as you can get, so there are no winners or losers in my opinion.

Remember, no different from gasoline as you drive around the country. If you like 'NJ fuel' but are in 'Montana', what the 'H' are you gonna do? Cry? Call a ramp truck to bring you back home? Sell the car and buy a 'Leaf" Man, learn to adapt.....when in Rome, do as the Romans do. Step back, say thanks to those producing the product and learn to relax. It is what it is.

If it is that critical, perhaps a NG connection is the only sensible solution for you, because you will analyze yourself to death over this question. Get a wind generator, photo voltaic, solar hot water, geothermal, and a heat pump. Spend several hundred thousand dollars, and then analyze those energy saving devices. See how that works out for you in the next 30 years.
Order up 44K Chevy Volt to hook to a voltaic collector..........

The 'horse has left the barn for a tasty meadow' while you debate whether it is OK to eat rich green grass, or grass with a tinge of Blue in it...... :eek2: bop2 :crutch: :bang: :mad2:

Heh Freetown Fred....have you analyzed the pastures for dung content lately? These guys seen to be in a life threatening situation concerning the organics ratios from different quadrants of the 'Mighty Vein' fields you live on.
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Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: TimW On: Sun May 29, 2011 3:50 pm

I do enjoy the different personalities and responses that are offered here. :)

Since my basement is quite cool and damp through the summer and I lost my whole exhause piping after the first season as it rotted away through the summer months, I think I will try to run the AHS S130 this summer and see what happens. Of course I'm out of coal, so I've got to address that too. For anyone familiar with the S130, are there any simple adjustments I can make for summer usage?
TimW
 
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Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun May 29, 2011 5:37 pm

You can and should lower the aquastat setting to 140. You are only trying to keep a hot water source, so the lower setting will give off less radiant heat and consume less coal......plus keep your exhaust piping in great shape, dry out the dampness and prohibit any boiler corrosion issue internally and externally. This a part of year round burning that is for some reason overlooked by many stoker and hand fed guys. Like keeping welding rod in a refrigerator with a 60 watt light bulb on........

Speaking of light bulbs being on, I laughed at you comment about MANY folks not having any light bulb on, no wiring to the socket, hell, no electricity in the house.........................

Also, I use a timer setting of 2 minutes every 30 minutes, same for red ash as white ash coal! :!:

Perhaps the next post will be what model and weight jackhammer is used to dismantle red ash clinkers while the white ash guys have no such problem. Should be good for 5500 comments, 60 or so pages......

Hope all the Vets and those who respect them have said some kind words and visited our cemeteries to say thanks in person. :idea:
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Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: MATTHEW D. On: Fri Jun 03, 2011 11:04 am

Don't get too caught up in red or white ash. It is no indication of btu's. Some coals give off more btu's and create a white ash and some create a red ash. Its just the way mother nature made it. If anything to look for is the "volatility" of the coal if you are burning through the summer months. You may run into outfire problems w/ a low volatile coal. As far as clinkers go....All coal will fuse "clinker" at a certain temp., some at higher temp.. some at a lower temp. Some stokers will burn at a higher temp causing clinker. Example is I get some clinkers in my aa130 and not in my efm900, both burning the same coal. But the clinkers are never a problem in my aa130. That's my 2 cents.
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Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: theo On: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:14 pm

I'am not really sure but i just bought some different coal right at the end of this season and it makes a white ash where my old coal was a red ash, i had to really step the stove up to get the same amount of heat from the new coal that i got from the red ash coal, i have pic's of the ash on another thread ( forgot where the thread is at, i think it is under coal price's ) Maybe i'am wrong , it might not really matter what color the ash is, maybe it just matters what mine it came from. Hope i'am not making an ash out of myself!! :doh: :doh: :doh:
theo
 
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Re: Is red ash or white ash coal preferred in the AHS S130?

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Mon Jun 06, 2011 1:22 pm

theo wrote: maybe it just matters what mine it came from. Hope i'am not making an ash out of myself!! :doh: :doh: :doh:

I just picked up some coal from uae harmony today, the man told me the mine across the street is blaushak, I thought they were white ash from what I have seem, but it is not their only mine. The harmony is a red ash, and told only 7% ash. I was also told guys that work across the street come over to harmony to buy for themselves :lol: and the man that does coal quality test's gets his at harmony also. :D
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