WTC Fire in 1975

WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: BrotherDave On: Thu May 05, 2011 12:29 pm

Did you know that the WTC had a multi-story fire in 1975? Most of the aviation fuel was burned up in the fireball, meaning that the remaining fires were just regular office supplies and equipment burning. So I ask you, how was the fire during 911 any different than the fire in 1975? Did the characteristics of fire change from 1975 to 2001?
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/wtc_1975_fire.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghQKuXQyqGw
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: jpete On: Thu May 05, 2011 3:50 pm

Get ready for all kinds of stories about holes punched in the sides of buildings and any other excuse not to see what was right in front of everyone's eyes.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu May 05, 2011 4:36 pm

jpete wrote:Get ready for all kinds of stories about holes punched in the sides of buildings and any other excuse not to see what was right in front of everyone's eyes.


Whats in front of there eye's is the TV and the MSM mind control machine. The vast majority of the public are not capable of critical thinking.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: pine grove coal user On: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:25 pm

When an airliner goes through a building, it removes all the fireproofing on the structural steel. Now the steel is exposed to the direct heat of the fire, causing it to weaken, which allows it to be able to deform under the weight of the building from above. Once it starts moving it will never stop until it is a heap of rubble. It really is that simle.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:41 pm

Every single floor in THREE buildings in EXACTLY the same manner?

No variation whatsoever? Not one falls left or right?

Why didn't it happen in 1975 when more floors were involved for a longer period of time? The fire proofing, which IIRC, was put on AFTER the 75 fire, wasn't rated for the time which it was burning.

In the 2001 event, did you see a large orange fireball? What caused that?
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:51 am

I would take a wild guess that in 1975 there was not a bazillion gallons of aircraft fuel burning along with the pencils and paper.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:10 am

What was that big orange fireball on impact if not a majority of that fuel?

How much was available to melt steel?

Does kerosene even get hot enough to melt steel?

If most of it was used in the initial impact, then what we are left with is the same pencils and papers in 2001 as we had in 1975.

I didn't see any flames shooting out the bottom of the building in 2001, how did the steel get soft on down there?

And how did Building 7 collapse in exactly the same manner absent one single, solitary drop of jet fuel????
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:51 am

Really people? No the jet fuel isn't going be "all burned up" from the intitial fireball, the lack of oxygen in the enclosed space will prevent a complete burn upon initial atomization and it will continue to burn with other combustibles as o2 allows for quite a while. You DON'T have melt anything, why do i hear this same nonsense continually repeated, jet fuel doesn't have to melt steel, it only needs to burn hot enough to weaken it. As another poster mentioned, fire, softens steel, weakens steel, building starts moving, building collapses. if you want a conspiracy theory to sink your teeth into find another one, at least one that's not supported by those with a complete ignorance of physics.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:01 am

There is overwhelming evidence to support the theory that the three buildings were demoed , there is also much evidence that a 757 did not crash into the Pentagon. Perhaps you would like to take a look at it all.

However there was a plane.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:07 am

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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:20 am

Berlin wrote:Really people? No the jet fuel isn't going be "all burned up" from the intitial fireball, the lack of oxygen in the enclosed space will prevent a complete burn upon initial atomization and it will continue to burn with other combustibles as o2 allows for quite a while. You DON'T have melt anything, why do i hear this same nonsense continually repeated, jet fuel doesn't have to melt steel, it only needs to burn hot enough to weaken it. As another poster mentioned, fire, softens steel, weakens steel, building starts moving, building collapses. if you want a conspiracy theory to sink your teeth into find another one, at least one that's not supported by those with a complete ignorance of physics.


Lack of oxygen? What were all the people breathing? How much oxygen came in through the massive hole in the side of the building?

What caused that great big fireball on impact?

And if kerosene will melt soften steel, explain Building 7 that didn't have a drop of it.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:29 am

grumpy wrote:T there is also much evidence that a 757 did not crash into the Pentagon.


The single problem with these conspiracy theories no matter which one you want to pick is they all cherry pick minute details that half the time is irrelevant anyway. They will ignore the larger body of facts. For example in previous thread the conspiracy sites uses this image with the proclomation, "Where's the damage?" or something of that nature. The file name for the image itself is "facade-intacte-1.jpg".

Image

Intact? Where's the damage? How come we don;t see images like this showing damage on these sites? Note the giant hole that appears to be about 3 stories high in the center where the main part of the fuselage would have hit the building.

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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:34 am

jpete wrote:What caused that great big fireball on impact?


The fuel of course, keep in mind kerosene doesn't burn. The vapors do when combined with sufficient oxygen and the vapors require huge volume of area compared to the liquid.

And if kerosene will melt soften steel, explain Building 7 that didn't have a drop of it.


Any fire will and this building had both fire and severe structural damage.
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Re: WTC Fire in 1975

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:53 am

WTC 7 had fires on four floors, I know of no severe structural damage. How anyone can look at this and believe fire did this is beyond me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb7M0CxO ... 3FC7D88581
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