What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 7:40 pm

And how big are the trucks? If I go that rout, I need to know if I can get the truck down my driveway and onto my concrete pad at the back of the house. Pictures would be great.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:05 pm

I have coal!

The trucks are Approximately 40 tons (loaded) and almost 70 feet long; you better have a firm, level area to dump with no power lines close by.
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:08 pm

I should have mentioned that in Ohio the maximum legal road limit for a truck is 80,000 lbs. Assuming the empty truck to weigh about 32,000 lbs, that leaves a maximum of about 48,000 lbs. for the load. 46,000 lbs. to be safe.

You are probably saying the same thing by mentioning 80,000 lbs., but I just want to be sure.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)


Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:34 pm

PA is 80K also, and they have no sense of humor about 'heavy loads'. so it is unlikely that you would ever see much more than 23 tons net. For all those out there with info on this topic, please DON'T share any 'hawg tales' even though we all know a few.

As good as these guys are, they still need plenty of room to turn, and a stable platform to dump on.(always look for overhead obstructions, especially power lines, big branches. etc. A tri-axle is MUCH easier and safer in tight quarters, so look at that as an option also. They can carry 23 tons also in most cases. :idea: ;)
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:38 pm

What does a tri-axle look like, and how much room is required for one of those? I think that would be my only remaining full T/L option.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:45 pm

Same as a ten wheeler, but with an additional weight carrying axle in front of the duals. Much shorter turning radius, however there weight is more concentrated, obviously.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:49 pm

Can a fully loaded tri-axle truck make the roughly 325 mile one way journey to my neck of Ohio, or are they more in the line of short distance haulers?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:55 pm

They can go anywhere a TT load can go.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: firewoodman On: Mon May 16, 2011 8:59 pm

here's a pic of a pete 379 triaxle
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 9:02 pm

Is this the beast?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 9:03 pm

firewoodman wrote:here's a pic of a pete 379 triaxle


Looks like you beat me to the draw! Thanks!!!
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Mon May 16, 2011 9:08 pm

Check out the sideboard height, that is the difference between a gravel Tri-axle and a Coal Tri-axle. Additional height equals greater payload.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon May 16, 2011 9:12 pm

It might be a bit tight, but I think a good driver could squeeze a tri-axle into my place.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: Yanche On: Mon May 16, 2011 10:45 pm

A few years ago I tried to find a tri-axle coal delivery truck and couldn't. All I could find is trailers, which would not fit in my driveway. A tri-axle coal truck is special, with high side boards. It has to have these side boards to get the coal volume in. You need the greater volume because coal density is less than stone which is what most truck volume vs. weight is sized for. Neither I or Penn Coal sales could find a coal tri-axle truck licensed for both PA and MD. Most of these special volume vs. weight trucks only operate in the owners home state. They don't want to pay the license fees to operate in multiple states. That tractor trailer operators do have licenses for multiple states.
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Re: What does a full T/L of bulk anthracite look like?

PostBy: gaw On: Tue May 17, 2011 5:59 am

Yanche wrote:A few years ago I tried to find a tri-axle coal delivery truck and couldn't. All I could find is trailers, which would not fit in my driveway. A tri-axle coal truck is special, with high side boards. It has to have these side boards to get the coal volume in. You need the greater volume because coal density is less than stone which is what most truck volume vs. weight is sized for. Neither I or Penn Coal sales could find a coal tri-axle truck licensed for both PA and MD. Most of these special volume vs. weight trucks only operate in the owners home state. They don't want to pay the license fees to operate in multiple states. That tractor trailer operators do have licenses for multiple states.

That will be your biggest challenge. Finding one that can do it.


I see a niche market here; unfortunately more guys have gone broke buying a truck than have made money.
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