Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon May 30, 2011 7:49 am

I know, I know - it's NPR. I do listen to diverse stuff and occasionally they have some interesting programs that I learn something from. I just heard two that might be of interest here. They're linked below. Once on the linked site, you can read the transcripts or listen to the .mp3 file. Or simply ignore it :roll:

From the program Living on Earth

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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon May 30, 2011 10:39 am

I try to avoid the mainstream media, NPR, & the like .... because I can't afford to buy a new TV every time I throw a brick through it. :lol: :D :P
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: dlj On: Mon May 30, 2011 11:59 am

Thanks for the links. It seems pretty simple to me, if the military wants energy, it will get energy... Why wouldn't we use coal gasification?

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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon May 30, 2011 4:18 pm

SMITTY wrote:I try to avoid the mainstream media, NPR, & the like .... because I can't afford to buy a new TV every time I throw a brick through it. :lol: :D :P

Smitty, just think, burning rice coal gas in the RD - a true rice burner :rofl: :woot:

dlj wrote:Thanks for the links. It seems pretty simple to me, if the military wants energy, it will get energy... Why wouldn't we use coal gasification?

dj


IIRC, isn't this the process similar to what Germany had to resort to in WII when we cut them off from their petroleum sources?
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: dlj On: Mon May 30, 2011 6:58 pm

VigIIPeaBurner wrote:IIRC, isn't this the process similar to what Germany had to resort to in WII when we cut them off from their petroleum sources?


I believe so, but there has been a lot of research in that area since then. We can do it now a whole lot better.

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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:09 pm

Newest heard today from newsworks.org ...
Pennsylvania’s coal industry faces uncertain future

  • “I just tell them, give it a few years and see what your electric bill does,” he laughs. “Go a little bit of time without coal and see what your electric bill does.".
  • Listen to it... if you can. Corbett doesn't buy the GW stuff.
VOTE!
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: lsayre On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 8:35 pm

Oil from coal was proven viable (yet completely uneconomical) by the Germans in WWII, and much of their war machine was fueled by it. Sasol, the South African chemical giant, has been making oil from coal for many decades on a large scale. The problem is that the Fisher-Tropsch process of WWII fame has not been improved upon much at all, and it is still totally uneconomical. If Sasol did not have many other chemical success stories, and if it was not being subsidized heavily for its Fisher-Tropsch process of turning coal to oil, it would have gone bankrupt long ago.

Of course, there will come a time when natural oil will be so expensive that making it from coal (or wood, or natural gas, biomass, etc...) will become economical.
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 9:23 pm

AFAIK Larry they can make it for about the equivalent of $50 to $60 a barrel oil. The trouble is the volatile oil market and other issues like they use a lot of water. It's a risky investment, if you have situation like you did in 2008 that is going to bankrupt you overnight.
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:21 pm

Production waste by-product is lots of CO2...and that's not looked at too kindly. :o
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:32 pm

In the end,there's No Free Lunch.....Something's going to be objection riddled to someone in the Green Movement.......Me? I still like the Abundant American Coal Movement and it's Scale Of Economy in Hard Times and Energy Independence :up:
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 10:37 pm

HEAR HEAR Bob - I often wonder why the other side hates American progress so much ... :gee:
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Re: Coal Related Links from NPR's Programing

PostBy: waldo lemieux On: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:04 am

I wonder , is there a way to find out which companies misuse their employees so that we as responsible rock burners could avoid doing business those companies. I sorta feel that we owe it to those guys to only buy from safety conscious companies. If anyone has any kind of a list please post it.....

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