AA130FIREMAN wrote:Thinking of getting the misses a revolver. 22lr (or a 22 mag. ???) with a snub nose. Any good models besides s&w. Snub nose, 22lr, small frame,light weight, hammerless. How heavy are the trigger pulls ? Not a hair trigger but manageable. No derringers or semi autos or the folding type. She is not ready for my JUDGE, I tried to get her to shoot a .357 mag, but she didn't after she saw it jump, I was planning on loading .38's in it.
If the 38 is to much for her why not a 380 ACP Revolver by Taurus 5 shot Hammerless 15.5 oz Model 380IBB
Did you ever get the revolver? I saw this just now so late reply Given your scenario and intended useage, I would strongly recommend that you consider any J frame S&W and as somebody said above add Crimson Trace grips. The sight radius on the J frames is soooo short that unless you spend some serious practice time your hits particularly under duress (which is presumably when this would be used) will not be very good. The laser dot type grip aiming devices function to basically make your aiming point like having waay longer sight radius and far easier particularly under low or failing light conditions (when most troubles occur). Use standard pressure target wadcutter loads (both Rem and Win make decent versions of this) and avoid the higher velocity stuff. I carry standard pressure 38 target wadcutters loaded to 650fps in my backup J frame as a standard load even in a 357 J frame. Anything beyond that is really not pleasant to shoot. Buy used because few if any people will put more than a full box through a J frame; the vast majority buy these things, load them and then they sit forever after the first unpleasant experience of trying to shoot Treasury load styled 158gr SWC high vel 38 loads, full house magnum 125gr loads, or some newer wonder-uber-expanding-hollowpoint-magic-load. If you are sold on using a HP, my personal rec is the Speer Gold Dot short barrel 38 load which at least provides some reasonable degree of expansion at the leisurely velocities loaded to (800fps or so). Again, I carry standard pressure target wadcutters myself in my J frames. YMMV. Also, FWIW, I used to carry a Sig 239 as a backup gun but now avoid any small compact selfloading pistol. The smaller the pistol (Glock compacts perhaps excepted) the more reliability issues you begin to have. The J frames give the smallest footprint with "wheelgun reliability". The hard part is getting proficient with the short sight radius and the mechanics of loading the smaller revolver particularly under stress, while moving, and while somebody is assaulting you. Again, lots of opinions out there so YMMV> Bob Bob
All the online gun buyer sites are pointless for anyone living in this ridiculously left-wing liberal state (MA). They have to be shipped to an FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee -- AKA: a gun dealer) anyway ... and you'll pay a fee for doing so by said FFL ... so you might as well just go down there & buy it in person.
Christ, we can't even buy BRASS or PRIMERS online .... or even AMMO. This state is a f'ing joke!!
My wife and myself went to the sheriff's office for a conceiled carry permit. Now I need to take the wife out for some paper practice. Also I found a 22lr smith with a snub nose, good place for her to start. It's a shame the neighboring states don't recognize the permit. Some do, some don't.
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Here is a list of states that DON'T recoginize A PA perimt. Al , Ca,Co,De,Ha,Il,Ka,Maine,Md,Mass(poor smitty)Min,Ms,Neb,Nev,NJ,NM,NY,Oh,Or,RI,SC,WA,Wis The other states either have an agreement or recognize w/out an agreement. Hawaii is listed not having an agreement, but I didn't plan on making a road trip their anyway Now if I where a pilot
Yeah what a load of *censored* that situation is. It is CLEARLY defined in the Constitution - "....SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" .. yet, it is infringed upon every waking moment of every single day. Just the fact you have to apply for a PERMIT is testament to that. The Founders would be appalled at our current legal mess regarding the 2nd Amendment.
If there is ANY time to carry, it's while TRAVELING long distances. Your in in-familiar territory, which puts you at more of a risk. Criminals know this, & typically target tourist areas, & rest stops for petty crime. If you carry cash instead of plastic, carrying brings a real sense of security. Without it, your a sitting duck.
Lets hope we get some changes made in the near future. Although .... the more I read about the economy & future predictions, laws aren't going to make a lick of difference. It's going to be those who are armed ... and those who are vulnerable.
S&W Single Action (SA) .32 and .38 top break revolvers, all are pre-1899
S&W Spur Trigger: With the exception of one rare S&W model, production of single-action spur trigger revolver frames had essentially stopped by 1892. So just about all of these are antique.)
S&W Double Action (DA) .32 top break revolvers with hammer (serial # below 209,301)
S&W DA .32 top break hammerless ("lemon squeezer") revolvers (serial # below 91,400)
S&W DA .38 top break revolvers with hammer (serial # below 382,022)
S&W DA .38 top break hammerless ("lemon squeezer") revolvers (serial # below 119,900)
S&W Model 3 and New Model 3 single action revolvers, all are pre-1899
S&W .45 Schofield revolvers, all are pre-1899 (Note: Most of the Schofields currently on the market are modern replicas)
S&W DA First Model revolver, all are pre-1899
S&W DA "Frontier" revolvers, all are pre-1899
S&W DA "Favorite" revolvers, all are pre-1899
Important Note: An article by Roy Jinks (S&W factory historian), some years ago reported that all of the *frames* for the large frame top-break S&Ws were made prior to 1899, and hence all New Model #3's, .44 DA 1st Models, DA Frontiers, and related models are considered "antique" by the BATFE, even though they may have been cataloged and even assembled well into the early 20th century. Special thanks to Roy Jinks and the S&W Collector's Association for this information.
S&W Model 1891, all are pre-1899
S&W 1st Model hand ejector (.32s only), all are pre-1899