Star Herald 112

Does anyone remember where to find the firepot size BTU calculations?

From an older thread I found the following:

Burning the stove @ 600 degrees it outputs 2,850 BTU's per sq ft of radiating surface (Glenwood # 6 equals 27 ft): 76,950 btu's.

Burning the stove @ 800 degrees it outputs 5,430 BTU's per sq ft of radiating surface (Glenwood # 6 equals 27 ft): 146,610 btu's.

Yep Will,
I'm finding the same with the cookstove. While it takes a little more ginger approach (to avoid spilling coal) they do clear better for sure and the recovery seems faster too probably due to the same reason. I was shaking the Herald about the same as the Glenwood and that was not enough and over about 5 days, it built up. The Herald burns quite a bit longer (per load) than the range too and does so on less coal. I'd guess it's close to two to one. The range is a big piece of cast though and makes allot of heat.

Steve, does the round outer grate can rotate or is it fix? Just curious and there are so many models in the antique soves world.

Pierre,

Yes that's how mine shakes. Back and forth a few inch's from center with the handle of the dump fork. It's very easy but you need to do it a good 30-40 times to get every thing down and see that glow from above in the pan. I only ever pull the fork when its cold and I'm cleaning everything out. I did pull it slightly the other day when I let it get clogged up but as a normal routine its just that rotation of the whole grate back and forth.

Great burn time on the Star. I once let my Glenwood Base heater run at low speed and it went from 9 AM sat. and was still going at 4PM Sun. The whole deal is to have them airtight so you can control what air enters the firebox. Once they start to leak you lose control and they die or run away.
We are pushing them out as fast as possible but folks keep coming in. I have started to knock the lean to off the back of the barn so I can get a pad poured before it's too cold. I want to move all my welding, cabinet blasting , and sheet metal work out to this room. Then the main shop will be just for assembly etc. Next Spring I'll build a showroom at the other end of the barn. Maybe then my son and I won't be tripping over each other.
I still can't find that catalog. When opened it shows four different but similar Herald coal heating models. The Star is one and another is the Home and a third may be the Rose. I must have put it in a safe place so I would not lose it. I do that alot

No worries Emery,

I'm sure it will turn up sometime. Sounds like a good plan for the shop. I'll bet the stuff is flying out. The Star is performing quite well. Pretty happy with it thus far. I was telling Eddie that same thing about the below the fire air for the Crystal Crawford he picked up. They can't be totally air tight due to that shaker handle slot, but you can tighten them up enough to have pretty good control.

Found it. I did indeed put it in a safe spot. Anyway this is one page of coal heaters from May 1916. They made a total of 8 different upright coal heaters plus the oak stoves. Herald did not get into base heaters till the 20's. The beautiful #6 and #8 models are dated 1929 or so. They did make an upright bae heater called the "Our Herald Parlor" stove. It came in regular height and with an extention top. $35.50 to 53.50 Emery

Thanks Emery,

That's awesome. Like seeing that the Star was the top of it's line except for the the "Our" and "Rose" Herald Base Heater and Burner. Amazing that they lasted so long and worked so nicely as well. At the moment, mine is cruising along at 375 and is the only heater going in the old place. With this temperate weather we're having up here, the cookstove is too much in addition to the Star. The night time temps get down to mid 20s but the days are mid 50s. It's doing a bang up job heating the whole place by itself in these conditions. I'd love to find an Our or Rose Herald in a 12" or 14" firepot size. If ever you come across one or a #6 for that matter, let me know.

Wow, Emery has all the cool pics..

PC 12-47E wrote:Wow, Emery has all the cool pics..

Yes, he does and he has the cool stoves to go along with the pictures.

Always fun to see an original photo from so long time ago. Even better when it's from the stove you have in the home.
Don't know if someone keeps photos from the present electric base boards for the next generations??? LOL.

We use a Herald base heater in our home. I lit it when we had the snow storm mand it is still on. Yesterday the temps around here were in the high 60's. I shut the bottom drafts yesterday morning and opened the top one. The stove was at 150 on the barrel at 4 PM. I just opened the lower drafts and closed the top and the stove went right up to 600 and sat there all night. These folks had their act together way back then

Notice in the catalog that Herald had no base heater as of 1916. The did come out with one in the 20's that was based on the Herald oak 16. I am doing one now. They later came out with a dedicated base heater model called the #6 or #8 depending on size. They carry dates of 1929. Also some Glenwood #6 base heaters are dated 1932. It looks like they continued to produce these machines well up into the 30's.

Emery,

I have a page from an older Herald catalogue from maybe 1909 or so. In that they call the "Our Herald" with double bottom a baseheater and the "Ruby Herald" with tea kettle attachment a base burner, (heating down between the sheet iron body and base). You're right that the dedicated #6 and #8 came later as they are not listed at all in this catalogue. I know this is an older catalogue as the Star Herald sells for $12.50 and $14.60 respectively for the 112 and 114 models compared to the page you posted from the 20's where they are $26 and $30 for the same two. They more than doubled in those 15 or 20 years!

I just love the incredible beauty and technology of all these old stoves. Every time I read about another one on here it just totally amazes me of the efficiencies, adjustability and quality that was put into these stoves. With that said I just picked up another Glenwood No.6 Base heater from a friend of a friends grandparents house, this one is the 1932 version, do not see anything different except for the “1932” on the shaker door. I would love to see some old catalogs on the Glenwood Base heaters. Defiantly ready for the next meeting of the “ASA” (Antique Stoves Anonymous)

Emery, you should cast copies of these stoves and sell them as new before we can’t find the originals anymore. What do you think the cost would be?

Rob

rasct wrote:I just love the incredible beauty and technology of all these old stoves. Every time I read about another one on here it just totally amazes me of the efficiencies, adjustability and quality that was put into these stoves. With that said I just picked up another Glenwood No.6 Base heater from a friend of a friends grandparents house, this one is the 1932 version, do not see anything different except for the “1932” on the shaker door. I would love to see some old catalogs on the Glenwood Base heaters. Defiantly ready for the next meeting of the “ASA” (Antique Stoves Anonymous)

Emery, you should cast copies of these stoves and sell them as new before we can’t find the originals anymore. What do you think the cost would be?

Rob

Now you have three of them. Is this 1932 one complete?