grumpy, that Florida link is particularly interesting to me, because I had to travel to Dade County for work around the time of the Miami riots of 1982 (IIRC). I recall that people in some offices relocated their work areas away from the line-of-sight of windows to avoid stray bullets, even after the riots were "over". Based on that, I would guess that at least some of those local restrictions didn't come from liberal gun-control extremists, but maybe were more like acts of desperation. I'm not saying they were effective, right, or even lawful. However, it seems like gun proponents might want to look beyond the liberals, and give thought to ways that more effective penalties for the misuse of guns might be a way to support greater gun freedoms. Does that make any sense?