How Do You Distribute Heat From Your Stove?
- CoalHeat
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It's a good,inexpensive way to move air around. Even curved to help you avoid the collision with the forehead when stumbling around in the dark of night!
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
I thought there was a similarity to Ed also.
I guess we are all showing our age by just knowing who Ed Norton was!traderfjp wrote:WoodNcoal: I love your avatar picture it reminds me of Ed Norton when he had his sewer uniform on. Very cool.
(Best comedy ever on TV....I have every episode & still laugh!)
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
"Hamina, Hamina, Hamina, ch, chef of the future......."Devil5052 wrote:I guess we are all showing our age by just knowing who Ed Norton was!traderfjp wrote:WoodNcoal: I love your avatar picture it reminds me of Ed Norton when he had his sewer uniform on. Very cool.
(Best comedy ever on TV....I have every episode & still laugh!)
"Can it core a apple?"Wood'nCoal wrote:"Hamina, Hamina, Hamina, ch, chef of the future......."Devil5052 wrote: I guess we are all showing our age by just knowing who Ed Norton was!
(Best comedy ever on TV....I have every episode & still laugh!)
"Ohhhhhhh.......It can core a apple!"
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
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LOL...Perhaps the best episode!! (although I am partial to the "Chef of the Future" too)
Episode quiz:
What is Ralph's response when Alice says ...." I thought you were playing football...the way your backfield was in motion!"
Episode quiz:
What is Ralph's response when Alice says ...." I thought you were playing football...the way your backfield was in motion!"
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- Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
Without cheating, I cannot give you the answer to that question, although I can hear the usual Ralph answers in my mind.
It's been a while since I saw that one too but I believe it is this:Wood'nCoal wrote:Without cheating, I cannot give you the answer to that question, although I can hear the usual Ralph answers in my mind.
Alice disappears into the bedrom & Ralph....approaching the door , raises his golfclub in a menacing manner & yells: "Oh yeah!! .......How'd you like to go sailing up over the clubhouse?!?"
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- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
I always liked "Kramden's Miracle Appetizer" (which was really dog food).
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Anyways, getting back to ceiling fans. They are designed to run in one direction during the summer to push air down to give you a cooling effect as the air washes over your body to evaporate perspiration. In the winter you should reverse it to push heated air across the cieling and down the walls to the floor which in turn moves air across your feet and up your body. I have a great room with 14 foot walls and a 5 foot ceiling fan. It does make a difference in moving the HOT stove heat around that room in winter and in summer forces the air conditioned air to move around the room also.
On the subject of stairways and holes in the floor. Only a stairway will work for moving air with some compromise. One thing of importance is the angle of the stairs. The warm air indeed goes up and the cold air does go down. The problem is to what degree? My spiral staircase is literally a huge vent hole cut in the floor which would lock the air to one small portion of the upstairs as it was at the far end of the family room and would tend to be cool air rising with cold air dropping. By using a push fan in the family room to force air to the stairs I got all the air to go up by cutting a hole in the floor near the downstairs stove which cold air drops down.
Right now without a pusher fan it works backward as the warm air is rising near the stove to go through the vent hole into the hallway above and the stairway is acting as the cold air return.
On the subject of stairways and holes in the floor. Only a stairway will work for moving air with some compromise. One thing of importance is the angle of the stairs. The warm air indeed goes up and the cold air does go down. The problem is to what degree? My spiral staircase is literally a huge vent hole cut in the floor which would lock the air to one small portion of the upstairs as it was at the far end of the family room and would tend to be cool air rising with cold air dropping. By using a push fan in the family room to force air to the stairs I got all the air to go up by cutting a hole in the floor near the downstairs stove which cold air drops down.
Right now without a pusher fan it works backward as the warm air is rising near the stove to go through the vent hole into the hallway above and the stairway is acting as the cold air return.
- CoalHeat
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- Joined: Sat. Feb. 10, 2007 9:48 pm
- Location: Stillwater, New Jersey
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
- Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
When I was burning the woodstove where I now have the Harman I installed a bathroom ventilating fan in the wall between the Kitchen and the Dining Room, where the stove is. The heat from the pipes and the top of the stove was drawn through the fan which I connected to a 4" aluminum duct that I ran through the laundry alcove and down the far wall out into the kitchen. The arrangement works fairly well. Now with the coal stove and the baro damper, the pipes don't get as hot, and the blower on the stove keeps the top of the stove cooler, so it doesn't radiate as much heat to the fan.
I realized I had to do something, so when I was at the H.D. today I picked up a few dryer ducts for narrow spaces and quickly made a little device that sits on top of the pipe just before the thimble and has an outlet just in front of the fan intake. It looks so hidious that I refuse to post a picture of it here. My wife hates it, but I tried to sell it by saying that it's "only temporary" until I can determine how well it works, and that it's not attached to anything, it's completely removable if we don't need it.
It actually works fairly well, I need to build a better more acceptable duct.
I think my family is secretly planning a little "vacation" for me at a nearby clinic.
I realized I had to do something, so when I was at the H.D. today I picked up a few dryer ducts for narrow spaces and quickly made a little device that sits on top of the pipe just before the thimble and has an outlet just in front of the fan intake. It looks so hidious that I refuse to post a picture of it here. My wife hates it, but I tried to sell it by saying that it's "only temporary" until I can determine how well it works, and that it's not attached to anything, it's completely removable if we don't need it.
It actually works fairly well, I need to build a better more acceptable duct.
I think my family is secretly planning a little "vacation" for me at a nearby clinic.
- CoalHeat
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- Posts: 8862
- Joined: Sat. Feb. 10, 2007 9:48 pm
- Location: Stillwater, New Jersey
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
- Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
An update on my heat transfer experiment:
The duct I made wasn't providing enough warm air, it sat on the pipe to the chimney, after the baro damper. I realized that I needed to draw heat from the pipe right out of the stove. So I turned the wooden duct on the wall that covers the fan sideways and attached the piece of dryer vent to the vertical pipe behind the stove with wire, and ran metal duct to the wooden panel, which has the other half of the dryer duct inside of it.
The kitchen is a 1 story addition built onto the side of the house where the stove is. It is 23' X 14', well insulated, with a concrete slab floor. It I s all outside walls except for 13' of one 23' wall.
This is a temporary set-up, I would like to fabricate a heat exchanger of some sort to surround the pipe, and use a piece of round duct to run it to a sort of pancake duct that I can run behind the stone work (I will someday install behind the stove)and into the plenum covering the fan.
The duct I made wasn't providing enough warm air, it sat on the pipe to the chimney, after the baro damper. I realized that I needed to draw heat from the pipe right out of the stove. So I turned the wooden duct on the wall that covers the fan sideways and attached the piece of dryer vent to the vertical pipe behind the stove with wire, and ran metal duct to the wooden panel, which has the other half of the dryer duct inside of it.
The kitchen is a 1 story addition built onto the side of the house where the stove is. It is 23' X 14', well insulated, with a concrete slab floor. It I s all outside walls except for 13' of one 23' wall.
This is a temporary set-up, I would like to fabricate a heat exchanger of some sort to surround the pipe, and use a piece of round duct to run it to a sort of pancake duct that I can run behind the stone work (I will someday install behind the stove)and into the plenum covering the fan.
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- Posts: 8862
- Joined: Sat. Feb. 10, 2007 9:48 pm
- Location: Stillwater, New Jersey
- Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
- Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
- Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
- Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert
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I have a propane furnace in the kitchen, this year I refuse to use it. As long as my wife will tolorate this set-up I'll continue using it (or until I can fabricate a better system).
I have a propane furnace in the kitchen, this year I refuse to use it. As long as my wife will tolorate this set-up I'll continue using it (or until I can fabricate a better system).