Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: jpete On: Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:15 am

McGiever wrote:
And how would one get the cable into the house...crack a door or window? ...Carbon Monoxide!


Stuff the crack with towels and put the carbon monoxide detector next to it. ;)
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: 009to090 On: Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:16 pm

McGiever wrote:Many clothes dryers outlets were once wired w/ 10/3. (2 wires and a ground)
therefore they will NOT provide the necessary neutral connection from a generator.
By definition...a "Ground" conductor is a "NON"-current carrying conductor...where a "Neutral" is a current carrying conductor.

"10/3" is made up of 2 hot conductors, a neutral, and a ground. The gound is assumed, and not counted in the wire's description.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:28 am

DVC500 at last wrote:
McGiever wrote:Many clothes dryers outlets were once wired w/ 10/3. (2 wires and a ground)
therefore they will NOT provide the necessary neutral connection from a generator.
By definition...a "Ground" conductor is a "NON"-current carrying conductor...where a "Neutral" is a current carrying conductor.

"10/3" is made up of 2 hot conductors, a neutral, and a ground. The gound is assumed, and not counted in the wire's description.



Okay, then I meant "10/2"...was only trying to leave the "assumptions" out of the mix for the "non electrical" people.

McGiever wrote:Many clothes dryers outlets were once wired w/ 10/2. (2 wires and a ground)
therefore they will NOT provide the necessary neutral connection from a generator.
By definition...a "Ground" conductor is a "NON"-current carrying conductor...where a "Neutral" is a current carrying conductor.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:37 pm

Here's my manual 200 amp transfer switch made by Ronk.
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My generator came with an automatic transfer switch but it limited how many circuits I could use so I sold it. Before I had this 15 kw standby gen, I used a portable and back fed it through the panel as others have described. It's safe as long as one person only does it and knows what they are doing. But there's a chance for human error that could be fatal to a lineman. Can't screw up with a transfer switch.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: chevymatt On: Tue Sep 20, 2011 8:57 pm

As a power lineman I would def. Say our biggest threat while on storm is people back feeding the system. A transformer on a pole doesn't care which way it is fed. If you put 240v into the bottom of it it will put out up to 144000v out on the top side ( depending on the system voltage) and down the line. The biggest help you can do is open your main breaker. The neutral doesn't matter because it is grounded at the meter and at the transformer. Our biggest safety rule is to treat everything as hot until it is tested dead and grounded but your neighbors don't necessarily know or do the same. So please be careful and make sure that breaker is open when playing with a generator.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 4:09 pm

McGiever wrote:
DVC500 at last wrote:
McGiever wrote:Many clothes dryers outlets were once wired w/ 10/3. (2 wires and a ground)
therefore they will NOT provide the necessary neutral connection from a generator.
By definition...a "Ground" conductor is a "NON"-current carrying conductor...where a "Neutral" is a current carrying conductor.

"10/3" is made up of 2 hot conductors, a neutral, and a ground. The gound is assumed, and not counted in the wire's description.



Okay, then I meant "10/2"...was only trying to leave the "assumptions" out of the mix for the "non electrical" people.

McGiever wrote:Many clothes dryers outlets were once wired w/ 10/2. (2 wires and a ground)
therefore they will NOT provide the necessary neutral connection from a generator.
By definition...a "Ground" conductor is a "NON"-current carrying conductor...where a "Neutral" is a current carrying conductor.


Yep, that's the way my old dryer plug was wired. I just bought a new dryer and was installing the pigtail and noticed it. For me its a interlock only if I ever decide to hook up the Lincoln Ranger 9 in the garage.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:08 pm

I see some good info here :D for my generator install
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Nov 01, 2011 7:13 pm

Don't forget pictures. We like 'em.
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:20 pm

grumpy wrote:And Bravo ! yes an interlock, can we see it? If it's what I think it is it's a great way to go and cheep so why not do it to be covered and safe.

Heres my Interlock.
NOW..... since the interlock switches ALL circuits in the Main Panel (if its installed in the Main, like mine) there really is no way to tell when the Street power comes back on, unless its at night, and I can see the street lights come on. Or a neighbor calls.
Sooooo.... I installed a new Meter box with a 200AMP CB, slots for 8 small CBs, and passthru lugs. What I'll do is use one of these new slots to power a 15amp light circuit, and mount the light in the kitchen, or someplace we visit alot. That way, once street power comes back on, this single light circuit will be powered by street power and the light will come on. Maybe I'll hook a buzzer up to it too. That will notify us the street power is back on, and I can turn off the generator and throw the InterLock off of Gen and onto Main :idea:
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Re: Electricians, generator hookup advice needed

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:59 pm

Was wondering what was up with that picture posted earlier...
How about a blinking green light... :lol:
Better yet something that dials yor cell when the power is back... ;)
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