florece hot blast i.d.?

florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: slinger100 On: Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:17 pm

Hello. I just came across a Florence hot blast stove but the skirt and legs are missing. I'm not even sure which model number it is? I would like to restore this stove but I'm not sure where to start. Does anyone have any information that can help me get started on this project? Thanks Matt
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Combustioneer 77b
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. 1600 circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Ensign 37, Florence Hot Blast 153, Favorite, others
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: ds machine #4 1600 circulator
Stove/Furnace Model: ds machine#4 1600 circulator

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:24 am

Florence Hot Blasts are very good stoves. They rank near the top of the oak stove class. They sold in large numbers and therefore they are not hard to find. I recommend that you start with a stove that is complete and has all of its parts. It is very hard to find parts individually for these stoves and most other antique stoves. Again I suggest you start with one that is complete.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:45 am

I agree with what William said. It's extremely hard to find individual parts for any antique stove. Even the most popular like Glenwood's usualy will require a new casting and for that, you need an original part. You might get lucky scouring e-bay but it's a waiting game and frustrating.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

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Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:08 am

We need a photo, there are parts on ebay right now..
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Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: slinger100 On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:38 pm

Thank you for the replies. Well I purchased the stove even minus the missing parts. The price was so low and I felt like I needed to save it. I will post some pictures when I can . The stove has an 18" firepot measured at the top and quite a bit of scroll work on the outside if that helps with the identification at all? I purchased my first coal stove in July of this year (D.S. 1600 circulator), and 2 months later I own 3 stoves! I'm thinking that maybe I have a new passion. I really like the craftsmanship of the older stoves and I will keep looking for others to purchase and restore.
slinger100
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Combustioneer 77b
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. 1600 circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Ensign 37, Florence Hot Blast 153, Favorite, others
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: ds machine #4 1600 circulator
Stove/Furnace Model: ds machine#4 1600 circulator

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:52 pm

slinger100 wrote:Thank you for the replies. Well I purchased the stove even minus the missing parts. The price was so low and I felt like I needed to save it. I will post some pictures when I can . The stove has an 18" firepot measured at the top and quite a bit of scroll work on the outside if that helps with the identification at all? I purchased my first coal stove in July of this year (D.S. 1600 circulator), and 2 months later I own 3 stoves! I'm thinking that maybe I have a new passion. I really like the craftsmanship of the older stoves and I will keep looking for others to purchase and restore.


We would love to see pictures, look at Grumpy's thread on the restoration of his Florence Hot Blast. Are you planning on installing and using the Florence? You might be surprised at how it would perform. And yes, old stoves are addictive. If one has any sense of how art, science and crafstmanship are combined in anything, then you can't help but be in awe of these master pieces of beauty and high efficiency. Once your eyes are opened, then you can't resist them.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: grumpy On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 8:56 pm

wsherrick wrote:
slinger100 wrote:Thank you for the replies. Well I purchased the stove even minus the missing parts. The price was so low and I felt like I needed to save it. I will post some pictures when I can . The stove has an 18" firepot measured at the top and quite a bit of scroll work on the outside if that helps with the identification at all? I purchased my first coal stove in July of this year (D.S. 1600 circulator), and 2 months later I own 3 stoves! I'm thinking that maybe I have a new passion. I really like the craftsmanship of the older stoves and I will keep looking for others to purchase and restore.


We would love to see pictures, look at Grumpy's thread on the restoration of his Florence Hot Blast. Are you planning on installing and using the Florence? You might be surprised at how it would perform. And yes, old stoves are addictive. If one has any sense of how art, science and crafstmanship are combined in anything, then you can't help but be in awe of these master pieces of beauty and high efficiency. Once your eyes are opened, then you can't resist them.


I was about to post the same thing, but Will beat me to it... there is no turning back now my friend... enjoy...
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Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: rasct On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 9:44 pm

Slinger,
Good Score! They are very addicting! Especially one of those old mechanical pieces of art when you find one. I purchased my first stove in February and just acquired my second, even before burning my first one. I am afraid before no time; there will be a plethora of stoves in my garage due to me addiction.
You could also fabricate a base frame for it, shouldn’t be that hard to make and look somewhat period to the stove.
Rob
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Stove/Furnace Make: vermont castings/Glenwood
Stove/Furnace Model: defiant/No.6&8 base heater

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: slinger100 On: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:31 pm

Yes rasct I thought the same thing. I am a machinist by trade so I can make some of the parts myself. I picked up the stove for about $200 and it's not in bad shape at all. I am keeping my eyes open for a nice base burner now. My hometown is the same that the old Wherle company was located in so there may be some available locally.
slinger100
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Combustioneer 77b
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. 1600 circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Ensign 37, Florence Hot Blast 153, Favorite, others
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: ds machine #4 1600 circulator
Stove/Furnace Model: ds machine#4 1600 circulator

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 2:14 am

Again, are you going to use the stove once you get it restored?
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: slinger100 On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:43 am

Yes. I will use the D.S. for most of my heating needs but I do plan on using the Florence also.
slinger100
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Combustioneer 77b
Hand Fed Coal Stove: D.S. 1600 circulator
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Ensign 37, Florence Hot Blast 153, Favorite, others
Coal Size/Type: nut
Stove/Furnace Make: ds machine #4 1600 circulator
Stove/Furnace Model: ds machine#4 1600 circulator

Re: Florence hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:43 am

Ha,ha,ha.....This is great guys. We are like a bunch of addicts at a AA meeting! I love the comment slinger made that's he's looking for a base burner now, ha,ha just got this one home. Actually the Florence is a base/burner of sorts.
We are quite a crew. My gal is constantly laughing at the way I fawn over some old stove. I'm quite amusing to her. I feel like we're doing a service here saving these awesome heaters and showing how very good they really are. Hey there are allot worse addictions we could have right! I think as we acquire, rebuild and rotate these heaters out into the world, we'll find what's best for our own application, and we will be getting some great designs back out into the world. :)
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 4:51 pm

Once you compare the two stoves, you might find that the Florence will leave little work for the box stove to do. A Florence with an 18 inch fire pot and the double heating feature is a heat producing power house. With heated over fire, secondary air and properly set dampers the Florence will be very efficient to operate besides the heat it is capable of producing. But talk is cheap, you've got a journey of discovery ahead of you. Bon Voyage.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:19 pm

I agree the Florence with an 18" firepot is large size heater on the scale of a a Glenwood #8 for example. That's gonna pump out some serious heat.
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: florece hot blast i.d.?

PostBy: grumpy On: Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:41 pm

Photos... let see just what Florence this is......I can't wait any longer....lol :D
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