Buckshot for personal defence

Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:03 pm

Will 00 buckshot go threw plastered walls with a backerboard 1960's construction, not the old lathe and horsehair walls,(I believe it would) and still be lethal to occupants in another room ? Considering for home defence, could I go smaller, but may be less lethal when needed. I have a wife and kids, and would need to think of their safety if their was an intruder and I am un-shure where the rest of the family is. One nice thing about my house, their are emergency light switches that turn on 1/2 the lights inside, and spotlights outside with one switch.
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: Paulie On: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:16 pm

Popping of rounds in the house is risky business. Buck shot will blow threw the walls, I have a dog that works really good, no
problems.
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sun Oct 02, 2011 9:51 pm

first two #4 birdshot followed by 00buck...
#4 reloads quick and dont hurt innocents and keeps walls intact....00buck, when aimed at the intruder , stops the melay... 8-)
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:53 am

Paulie wrote: I have a dog that works really good, no problems.

Good idea, but I am allergic to dogs :(
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: europachris On: Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:38 am

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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: kodb On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 7:54 am

For inside home defense with dependents on site, I would avoid shotguns for the most part. Most shotgun projos and just about all pistol rounds will perforate (not penetrate) standard construction walls. In this application 223/5.56 makes good sense. Addtiionally, shotgun followup shots (particulalry in 12g) are harder than using a rifle/carbine. So long as your AR-15 rifle stays appropriately clean and WELL lubricated, that type of carbine with attached white light and some type of optical sight system is just about optimal for most urban/suburban dwellings.
Since I live in the country and have the luxury of not needing to worry about overpenetration issues for the most part, I use M1 Garands in a similar format and M1 carbines in a similar format.
HTH
Bob
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: k9 Bara On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:00 am

kodb wrote:For inside home defense with dependents on site, I would avoid shotguns for the most part. Most shotgun projos and just about all pistol rounds will perforate (not penetrate) standard construction walls. In this application 223/5.56 makes good sense. Addtiionally, shotgun followup shots (particulalry in 12g) are harder than using a rifle/carbine. So long as your AR-15 rifle stays appropriately clean and WELL lubricated, that type of carbine with attached white light and some type of optical sight system is just about optimal for most urban/suburban dwellings.
Since I live in the country and have the luxury of not needing to worry about overpenetration issues for the most part, I use M1 Garands in a similar format and M1 carbines in a similar format.
HTH
Bob

Agreed. .223/556 would be and is my choice. If concerned about penetration, check out the fragmenting rounds. Mag capacity, low recoil and stay on target and optics all add to a win. .223 rounds are cheap. I. Keep a box of a 1000 on stripper clips on hand for work and home. Don't get me wrong, I have both AR and shot gun in my work truck. At times I grab the shot gun over the AR. The shot gun is a devastating weapon. The odds get better for your with mag capacity.
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:05 am

There isn't much that won't penetrate 2 layers of drywall, some insulation, & some plaster. It all depends where the studs are. Even most rifles won't have a chance of going 3.5" through a stud & doing much damage when they come out the other side. I could probably shoot right through the wall with a .22, as long as it wasn't on a stud.
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: Cyber36 On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:55 pm

I perfer #4 Buck for self defense/home protection...............
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:38 pm

I see remington makes personal defence in shells in BB or a mix of 2 X 4 bird shot. Not as lethal but I believe the BB at close range inside my house, would be fairly effective in their face,and not tear threw walls as bad. I might do the one in the chamber with that, then some OO buck in the tube magazine. It seems hard to find BB or larger bird 2 in regular shells without being magnum ,steel for geese. Now I have an old double 10 gauge with some 3 1/2 magnum T lead shot that's not legal for geese anymore, but I'm shure it would mess up a person's day :D
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:34 pm

Good buying guide for defensive ammo

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MediaPag ... ediaid=635

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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:58 pm

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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:06 pm

I must smuggle that to MA ... :drool: :love: :rambo2:
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Re: Buckshot for personal defence

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:41 am

I would hope the fit and finish IMO, is better on their shotgun then on their pistols, or have smith and wesson manufacture it. :D
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