The "Occupy Wall St" Protest

Well then Dan may I suggest you get on out there & split that wood, it's gonna get cold & there will still be some opinions being expressed here after your done. You have control over that, anything that is said here won't change anything. Don't sweat the things you can't control, worry about those that you can, at least you'll be warm & I will still be able to get your BP up.

samhill wrote:M&G, haven't you heard yet, there are very few jobs. Lets face it the jobs that are out there mostly require either relocation, actual work or both. We live in an era with a bunch of spoiled brats for the most part, to many doing something physical is out of the question but most of what these brats can do has been exported off shore mostly it seems to India. We either have to retrain or bring those jobs back, as far as the job creators go as I have asked before where are the jobs? The lower tax rate for them has been in place for 10 years now, there are incentives for them to hire most of which get blocked but some get by, we should be flooded in jobs by that reasoning.

In a free state, "job creators" have no obligation to create jobs. The left wing commies (democrats and RINOs) have made it too risky to invest in the US.

As for taxes, they really haven't changed in the 25 years I have been running my business. Any cuts have been token. Our tax rates have been high since I can remember (the eighties). At this point, the taxes don't even matter. High or low, the left wing idiots (democrats) have pretty much destroyed the human capital of the United States.

The incentives provided for jobs always have so many strings attached that I, as an employer, would never even consider them. Larger businesses have the resources to manage the red tape but the constraints are many, to the point that it isn't worth it for many of those businesses.

The jobs that left aren't coming back any time soon because the liberals (communists) running this nation for the past 80 years have taxed (for welfare and social programs) and regulated businesses (ostensibly for the sake of the environment and the consumer) and organized unions and fostered class action suits to the point where businesses found it cheaper to produce goods if they just avoided all that jumped-up happy horsesh*t and moved their production offshore.

Just so you understand: it's a free country UNTIL people like YOU, who think they can decide when the rich are making too much, decide to steal from them by establishing a mob to take it unfairly by coercion (i.e. a union, political party, bar association, community activist groups, etc.).

The reason it's unfair is because you and your kind don't take it equally from the people (as in a flat tax or a users tax) for public works (a benefit for all), you take it only from the rich simply because you are jealous and hate the rich. In a republic, all classes of people are to have the equal protection of the laws for the preservation of their property and rights. When you use the democratic element of our representative republic to break that covenant , you are a menace to the Constitution and freedoms of the United States of America.

How can you look anyone in the face and say you love and support a free republic when IN FACT, BY YOUR WORDS on this forum, you have demonstrated yourself to be a communist. You would take from those who are exceptional and give to those who are lazy only because there is a disparity in income. That's not being fair, that's being a thief.

samhill wrote:I will still be able to get your BP up.

HAHAHAHAHA now that there's funny I don't care who ya are.

Take it easy.

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Thanks, Valter. Herman Cain would be many times better for this country than the current "Campaigner in Chief." And I believe it, the dems are trying to distract from their abyssmal, corrupt administration. 1000 days in and the country is in the worst mood I've ever seen it in. Obama is using the protesters to continue to bash capitalism. The dumber libs will still blame Bush.
Suppose the OWS got their way and all the governments of the world agreed to forcibly take money from "the rich". Who gets to redistribute it? Who accounts for it? How much does each hippie get? 100 million? Then they would be rich, hate themselves, and probably O.D. on their now affordable narcotics.

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Thanks for another good dose of the truth Valter. It is beyond my comprehension how anybody could continue to blame Bush, and also how anyone could still be supporting Obama. Turmoil seems to break out wherever he has been. I guess there's millions and millions of people out there that hate successful people and think the world owes them a living. They're certainly being used as "usefull idiots."

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All great movements are popular movements. They are the volcanic eruptions of human passions and emotions, stirred into activity by the ruthless Goddess of Distress or by the torch of the spoken word cast into the midst of the people.
Adolf Hitler
Mein Kampf
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The art of leadership. . . consists in consolidating the attention of the people against a single adversary and taking care that nothing will split up that attention. . . . The leader of genius must have the ability to make different opponents appear as if they belonged to one category.
Adolf Hitler
Mein Kampf
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Men dispossess one another but one may perceive by the end of it all that it is the stronger whom will triumph, the stronger will assert his will, that is the law of nature. Adolf Hitler

I think people are confused about being owed something and being given the opportunity to someday own something.

M&G, thanks for the spirited reply, heck I didn't even know I was in a class of people, it in itself shows your colors you believe that you are so much better than us low classers. You talk of taxes not changing for 25 years, where are you located?You talk of liberals running jobs away for 80 years, again what country are you from? I can't speak for people like me only for myself but I believe my question was how much does a person need. Never said that I would even consider stealing from them or anyone else, just that I don't like people stealing from me or anyone else for that matter. The whole point is the middle class has always supported the country & many way too many on both ends have not. I will say you are one of the most ignorant B*****Ds I have ever had the displeasure of indirectly talking to, & that's a good thing, I don't like being called a commie & don't know what would happen if face to face but you have a nice day & go back to running your sweat shop or whatever you have.

samhill wrote:Another question that comes to mind, why is it that you & a few others (not All) always have to embellish your replies with derogatory adjectives to get your points across? Just curious is all, I'm certainly not as knowledgeable & worldly as most but for some reason I can't think of a need or reason for it.

samhill wrote:I will say you are one of the most ignorant B*****Ds I have ever had the displeasure of indirectly talking to, & that's a good thing, I don't like being called a commie & don't know what would happen if face to face but you have a nice day & go back to running your sweat shop or whatever you have.

Liberal hypocracy at its best.

So you want to provoke people, on a public forum, act like a commie, talk like a Marxist, make zero concessions, refuse to listen, then get insulted.

You might have an internet addiction developing, it's a relatively new phenomenon. Try http://www.games.com , Flipwords is fun, and they have a benign chat room. It will keep you distracted until you can regain some semblance of composure.