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Post by blrman07 » Sat. Oct. 15, 2011 9:42 am

Ok you guys got me looking. The major ingredient of creosote from wood smoke is guaiacol. Guaiacol major use is in medicine for making expectorants. Expectorants bind compounds together to form a goo. That's the best way I can describe it. That is how expectorants work in the human body.

The same stuff is in creosote from wood smoke and is the major ingredient at 23% by volume. The guaiacol is formed by the pyrolysis of lignin. In other words, when you burn wood, especially at lower than optimum temperatures. When you burn at high temps, creosote formation is less because your burning the gases that result in the formation of guaiacol.

The guaiacol that is formed by burning wood traps minute particles of ash, moisture, and unburned carbon residue resulting in a buildup on cooler surfaces inside the chimney. Remove the wood smoke source and start putting coal exhaust which has no creosote and almost no moisture and it will remove all moisture from the guaiacol causing it to dry out and BINGO the "binder" has been neutralized; it dries out and lets go. After it falls you can scoop it out.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Oct. 15, 2011 9:49 am

Damn blr, that'll get me thinkin every time I work up a good hocker. :clap: toothy Good research my friend. ;)

 
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Post by SteveZee » Sat. Oct. 15, 2011 10:15 am

blrman07 wrote:Ok you guys got me looking. The major ingredient of creosote from wood smoke is guaiacol. Guaiacol major use is in medicine for making expectorants. Expectorants bind compounds together to form a goo. That's the best way I can describe it. That is how expectorants work in the human body.

The same stuff is in creosote from wood smoke and is the major ingredient at 23% by volume. The guaiacol is formed by the pyrolysis of lignin. In other words, when you burn wood, especially at lower than optimum temperatures. When you burn at high temps, creosote formation is less because your burning the gases that result in the formation of guaiacol.

The guaiacol that is formed by burning wood traps minute particles of ash, moisture, and unburned carbon residue resulting in a buildup on cooler surfaces inside the chimney. Remove the wood smoke source and start putting coal exhaust which has no creosote and almost no moisture and it will remove all moisture from the guaiacol causing it to dry out and BINGO the "binder" has been neutralized; it dries out and lets go. After it falls you can scoop it out.
Excellent! Shoots my chemical theory all to H, but I knew it worked! :P


 
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Post by freetown fred » Sat. Oct. 15, 2011 3:41 pm

OK, now I'm confused :? How's it blow your chemical theory all to hell??? If I can't pronounce something--it becomes a chemical of some sort. :clap: toothy

 
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Post by warminmn » Sat. Oct. 15, 2011 4:24 pm

Thank you all for the replies and I'm sorry if I hijacked the original question. I will be burning both coal and wood in my stove so I guess I will have to be watching my chimney closely. I never knew this before. It is all interesting.

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