How Do Hoppers Work?

Nope no back puffs or explosions--when I open & close any of my doors (hopper does not lock, just 1/8 inch steel) I do it real slowly. These stoves are not magic,a lot of common sense is entailed for safety & even then the $hit can hit the fan.SAFETY FIRST

smithy wrote:

nortcan wrote:Do hoppers have some gasses vents at the top or some others kind of venting form?
Do you have to fill the hopper each time you shake the stove grates? Or let the load go down before refill?

Where do the gasses vent to?

Smithy, The vent holes are in the back of the hopper, near the top. They vent into the fire box right in front of the flue outlet. The gases go right up the chimney so my neighors think either I am making egg salad or have farted.

I'm planning to put the magazine in the Golden Bride soon, the vent holes are at the top of the magazine but the flue exhaust ports are located very low , just at the top of the firepot so the gasses will have to go down to exit . On the grizzly note, the flue is high in the stove but not in mine. Someone see a problem/danger in that long way down for the gasses?

nortcan wrote:I'm planning to put the magazine in the Golden Bride soon, the vent holes are at the top of the magazine but the flue exhaust ports are located very low , just at the top of the firepot so the gasses will have to go down to exit . On the grizzly note, the flue is high in the stove but not in mine. Someone see a problem/danger in that long way down for the gasses?

The original magazines for the Glenwoods had the holes in the top of the magazine. The flue gases leave the back of the stove at about the bottom of the magazine. In the Vermont I posted you pictures on, the holes were on the top of that magazine also, flue gases also leave at or near the bottom of that magazine also, when the recirculation is on. I don't see a problem...

dj

nortcan wrote:I'm planning to put the magazine in the Golden Bride soon, the vent holes are at the top of the magazine but the flue exhaust ports are located very low , just at the top of the firepot so the gasses will have to go down to exit . On the grizzly note, the flue is high in the stove but not in mine. Someone see a problem/danger in that long way down for the gasses?

The Franco Belge also has the exhaust ports at the fire box level. No problem. Never had even the tiniest puff.

The "home's" has a small gap at the top of the magazine 1/2 x10 at the back.
your right the gas could turn down and then out

Hopper feed is out for me unless I can find one that burns stove size sub bituminous. Fat chance as every stove out there is designed for ant. What a drag! I live in the coal capitol of the US and it's hard to even get a coal stove here.

Wy Coal Miner wrote:Hopper feed is out for me unless I can find one that burns stove size sub bituminous. Fat chance as every stove out there is designed for ant. What a drag! I live in the coal capitol of the US and it's hard to even get a coal stove here.

If I were in your position I would look to buy a used Warm Morning stove. I am sure they would do a better job than the stoves designed for hard coal exclusively. Here in the East they are very common. Read the thread in the Bituminous burning section on the Warm Morning. They can be bought pretty cheaply and are worth trying.

Wy Coal Miner,

there's no such animal as a hopper fed bituminous stove. The bit would catch in the hopper and burn the whole shebang (and maye the house with it). It's only anthracite stoves that can use hoppers/magazines since they only burn from below and within the bed and not on top like bit. Bit burns pretty much like wood. As Franco said a nice Warm Morning 400 or 616 that holds a good load of bit would work great for you. Some of the big models can hold 80 and 100 pounds. Serious heaters.

Many of the hand feeds will burn the sub bit but all the cool easy stuff is for ant. That being said it's still hard to find good hand fed ones. Picked up an old Estate Heaterola for this winter or till I can afford a new one.

Wy Coal Miner wrote:Many of the hand feeds will burn the sub bit but all the cool easy stuff is for ant. That being said it's still hard to find good hand fed ones. Picked up an old Estate Heaterola for this winter or till I can afford a new one.

That Heatrola should have a ring feeding secondary air just above the fire pot. If it is intact and in good shape it should do a pretty good job.

franco b wrote:

Wy Coal Miner wrote:Many of the hand feeds will burn the sub bit but all the cool easy stuff is for ant. That being said it's still hard to find good hand fed ones. Picked up an old Estate Heaterola for this winter or till I can afford a new one.

That Heatrola should have a ring feeding secondary air just above the fire pot. If it is intact and in good shape it should do a pretty good job.

If your talking about the cool convection system then yes it's in good shape. Previous owners had a blower set up on it. The shaker system leaves alot to be desired as it has a few broken pieces but for 80 bucks I can't expect perfection.

Wy Coal Miner wrote:If your talking about the cool convection system then yes it's in good shape. Previous owners had a blower set up on it. The shaker system leaves alot to be desired as it has a few broken pieces but for 80 bucks I can't expect perfection.

I was referring to a perforated ring or assembly just at the top of the fire pot that feeds hot secondary air to burn the smoke. It is intended for bit coal burning. You can see it in the illustration for this stove.

franco b wrote:

Wy Coal Miner wrote:If your talking about the cool convection system then yes it's in good shape. Previous owners had a blower set up on it. The shaker system leaves alot to be desired as it has a few broken pieces but for 80 bucks I can't expect perfection.

I was referring to a perforated ring or assembly just at the top of the fire pot that feeds hot secondary air to burn the smoke. It is intended for bit coal burning. You can see it in the illustration for this stove.

hmm doesn't have a perforated ring. The top is shaped like a ring and open in the middle that drops down and exits out the sides by maybe a 3" or 4" openings. It does give the stove more surface area.

Hard to picture. Would help if you could post a picture.