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Post by dutch » Tue. Oct. 18, 2011 7:15 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:Could still be the paint...
If you had the stove body to 350* then go to 450* the next day...
It will smell again...
Then you hit 550* a week later you will get some more smell...
It will lessen each time...
A few burns at 550* and you are done...
at only 200 on the pipe, I would imagine you still haven't really burned all that new smell off.
As you continue on, and load and sometimes forget
you left the door open, you may see temps in the stack up into the 3-400 range,
and again, you will get more odors. I don't monitor my stove temps, just
the stack right above it, and yea, I've been up in the red once or twice, and
could tell by the smell.

as far as leaks, I would imagine any pipe fittings would leak inward due
to draft, (as the HD is hardly sealed). none of my fittings are taped or sealed,
at least other than any natural sealant of time.

good luck with the stove, it's a dragon for sure, but sure gives off
a nice even heat.

:D


 
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Post by EarthWindandFire » Tue. Oct. 18, 2011 7:52 pm

I'm brand new to coal burning myself.

I was able to burn off the new paint smell when I accidentally overfired the stove and it hit 700 degrees!!!

The blue flames were 12" inches high and touching the top of the glass door....lol

 
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Post by freetown fred » Tue. Oct. 18, 2011 9:14 pm

Off topic but---my grandfather, my father & myself, when being good old boy wood burners used to, about once a week, let the girl ROAR--used to go outside & watch flames shooting out the chimney--cool light show--every spring, we'd take a set of snow chains on a piece of rope & run them down the chimney, cats would never stay still long enough to get the rope on them. Never had a creosote problem, nor lose a house. Never had an odor problem either. :clap: toothy

 
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Post by Firemanz84 » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 6:59 am

Some pics of my setup...

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Post by SteveZee » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 7:56 am

freetown fred wrote:Off topic but---my grandfather, my father & myself, when being good old boy wood burners used to, about once a week, let the girl ROAR--used to go outside & watch flames shooting out the chimney--cool light show--every spring, we'd take a set of snow chains on a piece of rope & run them down the chimney, cats would never stay still long enough to get the rope on them. Never had a creosote problem, nor lose a house. Never had an odor problem either. :clap: toothy
Ha,ha,ha.Fred,
I've had a few of those myself although not always on purpose! :oops: Usually in spring, after a long winter, The Glenwood would be idling along and the creosote would catch in the pipe. Forgetaboutit, then. It's ripping till the "chimneys clean". Would always start with me seeing this cloud of whitish smoke and hearing the oncoming frieght train roar. I'd close every damper and adjuster on the glenwood which was now just a huge carburetor and would only just make a different roar with each adjustment! We had a permanant ladder on the roof to crawl out a hatch in the attic and dump sand or whatever down the thing. Sheesh, really puts a scare into you the first time :shock: . The chimney went past my bedroom and had a close off plate. I grabbed it to see if I could shoot an extinguisher in there and you know the rest. My fingrprints will never be the same! :D Ha,ha.the bad old wood days!

Firemanz, Looks like a nice stove! Why so long on the pipe? Wanted it sticking out a bit more I would guess?

 
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Post by Firemanz84 » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 8:21 am

SteveZee wrote: Firemanz, Looks like a nice stove! Why so long on the pipe? Wanted it sticking out a bit more I would guess?
Thanks, so far I love it! The fireplace has a 14" deep x 6" tall hearth sticking out (it's tough to see, kind of blends into the concrete floor), that the blower motor would hit, the pipe is as short as it can be to have the motor about 1/2" away from the hearth.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 8:54 am

Looks real good my friend. ;)


 
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Post by franco b » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 1:29 pm

SteveZee wrote:We had a permanant ladder on the roof to crawl out a hatch in the attic and dump sand or whatever down the thing.
Steve, this is a picture from a friends 1793 house. That stair is in the attic. Do you think that was the purpose.

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Post by Body Hammer » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 1:59 pm

That's awesome! The old timers sure didn't screw around did they?

 
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Post by SteveZee » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 5:52 pm

I would say so Franco, Sure looks like it to me.

In my case there is a trap door built into the roof. You prop that puppy open and crawl out to the ladder and up to the chimney. I should say I don't! ,but I guess people would in the day. ;) If you've seen the pix of the house you'll know why when you see the pitch of that roof and those two gables in front. :shock:

 
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Post by WNY » Wed. Oct. 19, 2011 7:30 pm

ON your transistion from the stove collar to the black pipe, is that a good tight fit? if not, put some high temp silicone or something in the joint. Also, is your chimney pipe sealed good going up thru the flue?

Just make sure you have a good CO detector working nearby.

 
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Post by Firemanz84 » Thu. Oct. 20, 2011 8:13 am

WNY wrote:ON your transistion from the stove collar to the black pipe, is that a good tight fit? if not, put some high temp silicone or something in the joint. Also, is your chimney pipe sealed good going up thru the flue?

Just make sure you have a good CO detector working nearby.
I wouldn't say it was tight, there is a gap all the way around. It is butted up against the stop inside the collar. Would door rope be suitable to fill the gap? I haven't seen any type of special connector that is made for stove pipe to the collar :?: Is there one this is slightly bigger than stove pipe to allow for a tighter fit in the collar?

I do have a DC CO detector with LCD display (with no reading) at about 3' from the floor and about 6' from the stove and then have additional AC/DC smoke/CO hardwired units throughout the house.

I have also purchased an AC/DC hardwired Heat Detector that will be wired into the exising hardwired smokes that will be in the area of the stove, just in case of a runaway...

 
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Post by freetown fred » Thu. Oct. 20, 2011 9:19 am

Door rope would work for me if it filled the gap. ;)

 
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Post by SteveZee » Thu. Oct. 20, 2011 9:50 am

Firemanz84 wrote:
WNY wrote:ON your transistion from the stove collar to the black pipe, is that a good tight fit? if not, put some high temp silicone or something in the joint. Also, is your chimney pipe sealed good going up thru the flue?

Just make sure you have a good CO detector working nearby.
I wouldn't say it was tight, there is a gap all the way around. It is butted up against the stop inside the collar. Would door rope be suitable to fill the gap? I haven't seen any type of special connector that is made for stove pipe to the collar :?: Is there one this is slightly bigger than stove pipe to allow for a tighter fit in the collar?

I do have a DC CO detector with LCD display (with no reading) at about 3' from the floor and about 6' from the stove and then have additional AC/DC smoke/CO hardwired units throughout the house.

I have also purchased an AC/DC hardwired Heat Detector that will be wired into the exising hardwired smokes that will be in the area of the stove, just in case of a runaway...
You'll be fine Firemanz. If it worries you put a bead of HT silicone around it or I've used HT foil tape on pipe joints too. Think it was called Kapton tape, good for 750 degrees.

 
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