Ash Pans

wsherrick wrote:I guess I am lucky. The ash pan in my Glenwood is made to the original size. I have virtually no problem with ashes falling out side of the ash pan. The only time I have ever had an issue with it is when I was lazy and allowed the ash pan to fill up to overflowing. The ash pit area in the No 6 is some what larger than the round grate opening over head. I have more of an issue with it with The smaller Glenwood, because it has a home made ash pan which is a little too small. Even so it still not much of problem, but; I have gotten used to how easy it is to remove ashes from the big Glenwood.

Dude, Stop!

You people and your fancy-pants old-timey base burners. Think yer' so smart payin' $3000 for something that originally cost $49.95!

Big metal box not good enough for ya', eh???



You know how bad I want one of those things, especially now after seeing your videos. I've got some serious Glenwood/Herald envy!

Kielanders wrote:

wsherrick wrote:I guess I am lucky. The ash pan in my Glenwood is made to the original size. I have virtually no problem with ashes falling out side of the ash pan. The only time I have ever had an issue with it is when I was lazy and allowed the ash pan to fill up to overflowing. The ash pit area in the No 6 is some what larger than the round grate opening over head. I have more of an issue with it with The smaller Glenwood, because it has a home made ash pan which is a little too small. Even so it still not much of problem, but; I have gotten used to how easy it is to remove ashes from the big Glenwood.

Dude, Stop!

You people and your fancy-pants old-timey base burners. Think yer' so smart payin' $3000 for something that originally cost $49.95!

Big metal box not good enough for ya', eh???



You know how bad I want one of those things, especially now after seeing your videos. I've got some serious Glenwood/Herald envy!

Kielanders,

Please, I didn't pay anything for my Glenwood... I got it given to me as a pile of cast iron bits and pieces... jeeze...

(of course I paid a bit to have it restored after using it like that for over 40 years...)

dj

Ha,ha,ha, yep DJ, I bet back then you never even thought of the stove as any big deal. Just an antique woodstove. Today it's a like Cord, or a Stutz. Icon of the coal stove world.

I've got some serious Glenwood/Herald envy!
Sorry I had too...

Gorgeous! Aren't you glad you didn't sell it now!

I am Steve I am greatful you wanted to buy it/talk me out of selling it, I don't know which was your intention. I have found all the parts I was looking for except one, I should have it by this spring when she gets torn apart and restored.

I agree with all of you and if I were in the stove market the first thing I would do would be to make an ashpan with Respect for the user of it. And a better stove too.
I send some photos showing a very good system for the ash core. The ashpan is original from VC and is galvanized. The swing out door with ash pan attached to it is super. I also made deflectors at the base of the ash pit to direct more ash into the ash pan. Was just for testing so I did take flat alu. bars I had. They still in and are OK cause under the grates, the temp. is not so hot.
Stoves makers may, should look at others' good ideas (like in the Antique stoves), then make like the Ch.....and copy. If it works for them it can work for us.

On the GB, the ashpan made from Bryant was small and didn't fill all the gap between the side guides so I had a larger made from galvanived steel.

That's the way to do it Pierre. That's a very good design.

Wow, that's a nice setup - I hope the designer got a 'major award' for that.

The ash pan is an important part of any stove. It needs to effectively catch whatever falls from the grates, and be large enough to hold 24 hours worth of ashes (my preference). Unfortuntely many of the stoves I have seen fall short on fit and/or function of the ash pan.

This is one thing I really like about my EFM...it holds a 1-bushel ash tub, and has a "funnel" that directs the ashes directly into the tub. As long as the operator isn't remiss ...there is no spillage. This week I am going to try and modify some 11.5 gallon galvanized wash tubs to fit, that way I can go at least 24 hours in subzero weather without worrying about overflowing the ash tub.

My Alaska Kodiak catches all of the ash I shake down.I've had the stove for 3 years and never had to clean up around the ashpan.I guess they were thinking when they designed it.I don't have to empty it every day either,as it holds a good amount of ash. Mike

We heated our house with a Harman SF-250 for a year and never were cold.....
The good points of the SF-250 are:
1) It's Built like a tank.
2) The grates are very strong.
3) the stove has tons of heat.

The bad points of the stove are:
1) The ash pan and ash door opening are about 12" wide and the grates and stove are about 18" wide.
2) Three inches of space on each side of the ash pan makes for a large amount of ash that does not fall into the pan.
3) Cleaning out the ash that does not fall into the pan, in our case, had to be done each day and made large amounts of dust even with the vacuum in hand.
4) Very Dusty Stove !!!
5) Very loud fan.

The only way to fix the ash pan PROBLEM is to have 3 ash pans made that are about 17 1/4" wide total ie 5 3/4" wide for each pan. With the three pans, side to side, they would catch most of the ash.

The best day with the SF-250 was the day I sold it !!!

Eddie

wow guys thanks for the tread as I need to make an ash pan fore the homie ! once again just when you think it will be a no brain er task, get ready to think again and some more.

PC 12-47E wrote:We heated our house with a Harman SF-250 for a year and never were cold.....
The good points of the SF-250 are:
1) It's Built like a tank.
2) The grates are very strong.
3) the stove has tons of heat.

The bad points of the stove are:
1) The ash pan and ash door opening are about 12" wide and the grates and stove are about 18" wide.
2) Three inches of space on each side of the ash pan makes for a large amount of ash that does not fall into the pan.
3) Cleaning out the ash that does not fall into the pan, in our case, had to be done each day and made large amounts of dust even with the vacuum in hand.
4) Very Dusty Stove !!!
5) Very loud fan.

The only way to fix the ash pan PROBLEM is to have 3 ash pans made that are about 17 1/4" wide total ie 5 3/4" wide for each pan. With the three pans, side to side, they would catch most of the ash.

The best day with the SF-250 was the day I sold it !!!

Eddie

Great idea on the ash pans.

If you have the number/name of the ash pan maker, I'd love to talk with them about getting something made.

I haven't had much luck with using a shop-vac on the ash, it clogs the filter too quickly, or catches a hidden ember and then the fun really begins...any recommendations?

Even worse (with the shop vac) is when it hic-ups and starts to bipass the filter! I looked back and mine was spewing a cloud out the exhaust. I don't know what causes that (maybe clogged filter?) but it will have a slight change in pitch and look out! That was a very bad day