Stove shutting down by itself.

Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:29 pm

Brand new Pocono. Less than 3 days of burn time. This is the second time the stove has shut itself down. Restarted it tonight and within 1/2 hour it shut down again. This might be a coal-trol isuue so I am posting this on both forums. If I go to test on the coal-trol and test stoker it runs and then if I go back to round robin it seems to work fine. Any ideas?
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:34 pm

Is the unit vented via a Powerventer or natural draft chimney?

Also, explain exactly what you mean by "shutting Down"??? Are you losing the fire? Is the thermostat calling for heat when it shuts down, or is the stove just at an idle?
MURDOC1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:36 pm

Natural draft
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:37 pm

Also, totally shutting down. Blower fan, convection fan shutting off completely
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:43 pm

Does the on/off switch stay illuminated red when/after it shuts down?

If the red light is staying lit after it shuts itself down I would look first at the CAT-5 data cable and check for a bad connection at either end, then go from there...

Let us know...
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:48 pm

Is it plugged into a GFCI electricl outlet?
EarthWindandFire
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 75. (sold)
Other Heating: Oil Furnace and Kerosene Heaters.

Re: Stove shutting down by itself

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:50 pm

Whats it doing? The fan shutting off? The whole unit (Coaltrol) turning off? The fire just going out but everything is working? etc....

Are the Fans and stokers plugged in correctly?

Do you have anything jamming the feed mechanism? Wrong size coal? etc.....

Try unplugging it and then plug it back in and reset it.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 6:51 pm

maybe a loose connection on the power cord? The Thermostat connection? etc...
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:04 pm

Brand new 100ft Cat 5 cable. Power connections seem fine. Ran since Monday until today with no issues although it did do the same thing shortly after I installed the unit. I am possibly thinking that maybe the Cat 5 cable might be the issue. I changed out the 25' cable that came with the unit with a 100' cable I bought on line. It seems to be seeing the control box fine with no visible interruptions. I may investigate that further. Any other ideas would be appreciated.
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: tsb On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:07 pm

The CAT cable is a straight through cable. Not twisted for networking.
The cable is the problem.
tsb
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Binford 2000
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Pioneer top vent
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Saey Hanover II

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:18 pm

etned wrote:Brand new 100ft Cat 5 cable. Power connections seem fine. Ran since Monday until today with no issues although it did do the same thing shortly after I installed the unit. I am possibly thinking that maybe the Cat 5 cable might be the issue. I changed out the 25' cable that came with the unit with a 100' cable I bought on line. It seems to be seeing the control box fine with no visible interruptions. I may investigate that further. Any other ideas would be appreciated.


Be sure that the cable that you bought is a "through" type cable and not a "crossover" type... Easy way to tell is hold the ends like this and note the color of the wires from left to right in the RJ45 should be in the same order from one terminal to the other...
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Reason I would start here with the CAT5 is that assuming you have the right type cable, when it is unplugged or has a bad connection, while all the motors are in operation, they will all shut down immediately... Or, if the wrong type cable is used it will do the same thing, Also the illuminated red on/off rocker switch on the control box WILL stay lit all the while even after the motors shut down... Sounds to me like the CAT5...
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:23 pm

Ok. So I changed the cable back to the original 25' that cam with the unit. I am hoping this is the fix. I thought I bought non-crossover cable so I thought it would be fine. Well, we'll see. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the input and will let you know the outcome. :D I also look at the color as best as I could and they seem to match. Maybe because the cable was so cheap $16.00 for 100' I just got what I paid for. But we'll see
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Thu Oct 27, 2011 7:26 pm

etned wrote:Ok. So I changed the cable back to the original 25' that cam with the unit. I am hoping this is the fix. I thought I bought non-crossover cable so I thought it would be fine. Well, we'll see. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the input and will let you know the outcome. :D I also look at the color as best as I could and they seem to match. Maybe because the cable was so cheap $16.00 for 100' I just got what I paid for. But we'll see


Cool deal, let us know!!!
MURDOC1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: etned On: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:41 am

Just a final update. Seems like the cheap Cat 5 cord was the issue. Been running fine since going back to the dealer supplied cord. I will just have to shell out the cash for a 50' replacement. Thanks to the input from all but Murdock nailed it. Thanks. Now can you make the snow go away til at least x-mas :funny:
etned
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pocono Rear Vent

Re: Stove shutting down by itself.

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Sat Oct 29, 2011 12:43 pm

etned wrote:Just a final update. Seems like the cheap Cat 5 cord was the issue. Been running fine since going back to the dealer supplied cord.


Glad to hear all is on the up and up my friend!!! Sorry, can't help with the snow though!!! :D
MURDOC1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker