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- Jim Blauvelt
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Hello All,
I have been lurking around the forum for a couple of weeks now and have learned quite a bit. I picked up a small Nashua wood/coal unit that I am planning to install in my home.
I have a few questions in regaurds to the chimney system. I plan to place the stove in the center of my home. There is a central load bearing and behind this wall is the homes exsisting brick chimney and framed chase. I plan on using a through the wall kit and run new insulated pipe parallel to the brick chimney. This will require me to use two stove pipe elbows to get me to the through wall "T" I was also planning to install a couple of offsets in the attic area so that the pipe can be moved away from the brick chimney and allow for some space between the brick chimney penetration and the pipe penetration. Would that be ok or am I putting to many bends in the stack.
Second question, the stove has a 6" outlet, I am assuming that a 6" stack would be appropriate.
Third question, I have been reading that coal stoves should be run continuosly. This Nashua stove has a bellows blower. I am assuming that this blower is used to stoke the coals and to help with start ups. can this blower be left in the off position while I am away at work or does this stove require it to be on all the time. I do not have a manual for this stove and haven't been able to find any info on blowers and there use. I am a little bit nervouse about being away from home 10 or 12 hours a day. Any info would be most appreciated.
Jim
I have been lurking around the forum for a couple of weeks now and have learned quite a bit. I picked up a small Nashua wood/coal unit that I am planning to install in my home.
I have a few questions in regaurds to the chimney system. I plan to place the stove in the center of my home. There is a central load bearing and behind this wall is the homes exsisting brick chimney and framed chase. I plan on using a through the wall kit and run new insulated pipe parallel to the brick chimney. This will require me to use two stove pipe elbows to get me to the through wall "T" I was also planning to install a couple of offsets in the attic area so that the pipe can be moved away from the brick chimney and allow for some space between the brick chimney penetration and the pipe penetration. Would that be ok or am I putting to many bends in the stack.
Second question, the stove has a 6" outlet, I am assuming that a 6" stack would be appropriate.
Third question, I have been reading that coal stoves should be run continuosly. This Nashua stove has a bellows blower. I am assuming that this blower is used to stoke the coals and to help with start ups. can this blower be left in the off position while I am away at work or does this stove require it to be on all the time. I do not have a manual for this stove and haven't been able to find any info on blowers and there use. I am a little bit nervouse about being away from home 10 or 12 hours a day. Any info would be most appreciated.
Jim
I would post some pics so we can help you. Are you set on this stove? It may make more sense to buy a dedicated coal stove. You can punch a hole through an outside wall and you're done. It took about 1.5 hours to install my direct vent kit. Also, there isn't any shaking and the stove can be controlled with a thermostat for even heating.
- freetown fred
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Welcome to the FORUM jim--post some pix of your stove & projected pipe set up. It's a lot easier to give suggestions when we can see what's going on. Where are you from??? If you finish filling out your AVATAR, I promise noone will steal ya.
Why not use the existing brick chimney? If it's in decent shape it will last longer and be safer in the long-run than using stainless. As far as leaving the stove unattended, be sure your clearance to combustibles is proper and get used to it; there's nothing wrong with leaving it unattended, you leave your current furnace/boiler unattended don't you?
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I believe that blower is to distribute the heat from the stove and not to stoke the fire. You can leave it off if you wish when away, it just will not distribute the heat as well and the stack temp. will be higher without it.Jim Blauvelt wrote:Third question, I have been reading that coal stoves should be run continuosly. This Nashua stove has a bellows blower. I am assuming that this blower is used to stoke the coals and to help with start ups. can this blower be left in the off position while I am away at work or does this stove require it to be on all the time. I do not have a manual for this stove and haven't been able to find any info on blowers and there use. I am a little bit nervouse about being away from home 10 or 12 hours a day. Any info would be most appreciated.
- Jim Blauvelt
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Thanks for all the replies. I will take some pictures and post them later as I get into more of the install. I wish I could just go through an exterior wall but the only area I could do that in would put the stove in a room away from the primary living space and is a very small room. The exsisting brick chimney is being used for natural gas exaust so not an option but I can use the space next to the chimney as a chase for the ss stack.
- freetown fred
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Sounds good. Looking fwd to pix
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Or power vent the NG...
- Jim Blauvelt
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Both of those ideas are very good ones which never occured to me.
Here is my stove. I bought it for $350 and it included a through wall kit, a through roof kit and just about enough pipe to do my 3 story home. This project is completly fianacialy driven...
In the image, just to the left of the through wall pipe and behind the stud wall is the chimney. the through wall fitting is in the stud bay right next to the brick chimney chase.
So far, what I have installed is a granite hearth which I got by trading a days labor, concrete board which I will apply stucco to, the through wall kit with a T, a bracket, a 1 foot pipe and clean out cap, and a 1 foot pipe coming through the wall. Piping the stove will require a 90 from the back of the stove, a 90 at the through wall and a 42 inch section of straight pipe.
jim
Here is my stove. I bought it for $350 and it included a through wall kit, a through roof kit and just about enough pipe to do my 3 story home. This project is completly fianacialy driven...
In the image, just to the left of the through wall pipe and behind the stud wall is the chimney. the through wall fitting is in the stud bay right next to the brick chimney chase.
So far, what I have installed is a granite hearth which I got by trading a days labor, concrete board which I will apply stucco to, the through wall kit with a T, a bracket, a 1 foot pipe and clean out cap, and a 1 foot pipe coming through the wall. Piping the stove will require a 90 from the back of the stove, a 90 at the through wall and a 42 inch section of straight pipe.
jim
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- coal bob
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hello jim and welcome do you no were this stove was made it looks simaler to on I had in the 80s I think it would only burn wood I don't see a ash door or shaker handleJim Blauvelt wrote:Hello All,
I have been lurking around the forum for a couple of weeks now and have learned quite a bit. I picked up a small Nashua wood/coal unit that I am planning to install in my home.
I have a few questions in regaurds to the chimney system. I plan to place the stove in the center of my home. There is a central load bearing and behind this wall is the homes exsisting brick chimney and framed chase. I plan on using a through the wall kit and run new insulated pipe parallel to the brick chimney. This will require me to use two stove pipe elbows to get me to the through wall "T" I was also planning to install a couple of offsets in the attic area so that the pipe can be moved away from the brick chimney and allow for some space between the brick chimney penetration and the pipe penetration. Would that be ok or am I putting to many bends in the stack.
Second question, the stove has a 6" outlet, I am assuming that a 6" stack would be appropriate.
Third question, I have been reading that coal stoves should be run continuosly. This Nashua stove has a bellows blower. I am assuming that this blower is used to stoke the coals and to help with start ups. can this blower be left in the off position while I am away at work or does this stove require it to be on all the time. I do not have a manual for this stove and haven't been able to find any info on blowers and there use. I am a little bit nervouse about being away from home 10 or 12 hours a day. Any info would be most appreciated.
Jim
- Jim Blauvelt
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Its a Nashua, Shaker on the right side, fire box door and ash door are one in the same. There is a small ash tray below the grate and slides out like a drawer.
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- coal bob
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ok hidden ash pan and shaker on the right side. looks like a nice stove was in made in ohio by chanceJim Blauvelt wrote:Its a Nashua, Shaker on the right side, fire box door and ash door are one in the same. There is a small ash tray below the grate and slides out like a drawer.