my new stove

my new stove

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:12 pm

Hi folks,

It's not hooked up yet (need to have some repairs made to chimney first) but I am the proud new owner of a Surdiac 508 stove! The couple I bought it from bought it new planning to install in their basement, but then never installed it. It has sat under cover unused all these years. only repair it appears to need is the damper arm appears to be bent slightly, preventing the damper from closing completely. If the thermostat is turned down to "0" the damper should be pulled closed, right? Other than that looks perfect. Came with it's original books and sales material. Very happy to have found this stove!

Image
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: my new stove

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:18 pm

Sounds like an outstanding find my friend. Keep us updated. ;)
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: my new stove

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:20 pm

Nice find! Just in time also, I'd say. You have time to get it installed before winter sets in... You got 10 foot ceilings in that room?

dj
dlj
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Stove coal
Other Heating: Oil Furnace, electric space heaters

Visit Hitzer Stoves

Re: my new stove

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:23 pm

9 foot ceilings, second floor of two family 1892 brick victorian. Stove looks teeny-tiny in the room, even in front of the tiny fireplace. Sorry for crap photo, the blackberry is not a very good camera!
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: my new stove

PostBy: nortcan On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:24 pm

Very nice set up. Don't forget more photos from the inside of the stove, grates...we like all photos.
nortcan
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: my new stove

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:33 pm

Will take some pictures tomorrow. This little stove has a little tiny grate and hopper. Hoping I can get it up and operating before it gets really cold. It has been mild here so far. I remember seeing lots of these Surdiac stoves when I was a kid growing up in Connecticut. Most were the fancy kind that looks like a little house with a mansard roof. I prefer this modern style.
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: my new stove

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:34 pm

Nice find. Realize it is only about 60000 btu's. It will take good care of you if you do the same to it. Do not try to make it more than it is. Enjoy what you have and you will do well, if you understand there are limits. I am sure that big house is heat hungry, just a guess. let us know how you make out. I ran a hand fired Buderus for 28 years before buying my new "beast" a Keystoker 90. The Buderus, like your Surdiac will serve you well.
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: my new stove

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:41 pm

I actually wanted a small stove to keep just the front double parlor warm, this stove is actually rated for 38000 btu, so it will really be a supplement to keep that area of the house more comfortable during the really cold part of the year. I have so many small rooms and closed doors here that the only way to heat the house properly with coal would be to get a boiler... may do just that if NG prices do not stay low. I understand these stoves work best at low-moderate settings.
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: my new stove

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:50 pm

Nice understand what your stove will do :!: Enjoy what you have and don't beat it up will that heat hungry house. Close some doors and enjoy the heat just like the old days :roll:
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: my new stove

PostBy: buck24 On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:41 am

ramblerboy2..... Stove and set up looks good in that room. Now the learning curve begins. Keep us posted how she does when you fire her up. Burn safe and stay warm. Good luck with her.
buck24
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: New Buck Corp. / MODEL 24 COAL
Coal Size/Type: Pea, Nut / Anthracite

Re: my new stove

PostBy: Rex On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:38 am

ramblerboy2 wrote:I actually wanted a small stove to keep just the front double parlor warm, this stove is actually rated for 38000 btu, so it will really be a supplement to keep that area of the house more comfortable during the really cold part of the year. I have so many small rooms and closed doors here that the only way to heat the house properly with coal would be to get a boiler... may do just that if NG prices do not stay low. I understand these stoves work best at low-moderate settings.


Enjoy your new stove!! Also I noticed your base board vents on the floor in your picture. You also mentioned a boiler as properly heating the house. If thats the case, you might have a future project with a boiler connected up to those vents!!

Good luck and enjoy it.
Rex
 
Stove/Furnace Make: D.S. Machine
Stove/Furnace Model: Circulator 1500

Re: my new stove

PostBy: musikfan6 On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:59 pm

Ramblerboy2:

Congrats to you from Lancaster County, PA. So glad that you have found a good heating source. I"m sure the stove will serve you well. Looks nice!

Your photo got me thinking, so here's a question for everyone to consider: Which type of stove generally puts out more heat - an insert or a free standing one? I went back and forth between the two types and was sure that I'd go with an insert simply because of the way that my fireplace hearth is set up, but I ended up with my FB.
musikfan6
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Franco Belge
Stove/Furnace Model: 1475

Re: my new stove

PostBy: musikfan6 On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 3:01 pm

I almost forgot.....

I REALLY like your fireplace hearth, there. The character and woodwork is superb. I love older houses so much more than the newer ones (except for the drafty windows and poorly insulated/non-insulated walls), simply because they have so much character. The fireplaces in those older homes are not only a source of heat, but also really great conversation pieces.
musikfan6
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Franco Belge
Stove/Furnace Model: 1475

Re: my new stove

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:55 pm

ramblerboy2 wrote:Will take some pictures tomorrow. This little stove has a little tiny grate and hopper. Hoping I can get it up and operating before it gets really cold. It has been mild here so far. I remember seeing lots of these Surdiac stoves when I was a kid growing up in Connecticut. Most were the fancy kind that looks like a little house with a mansard roof. I prefer this modern style.


That is the type I saw a quite a few of also. They look like a little house and run on pea coal. They were a good stove though and there are still lots of them around. Franco B should check in and comment as he is quite familiar with these type, but I do know that the hopper was weak spot that often got bent and stuck (in the house type surdiac's).
You'll want to fix that bent damper arm so that the damper is closed when it's supposed to be closed on low (I would think). I'm not so sure that low to moderate is they way to run it. It's a small stove as it is. You can run it fairIy hot within reason without worry. I wouldn't be afraid to run the stove within it's design limits. Good luck with it.
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: my new stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Nov 14, 2011 6:08 pm

One of the advantages of the Surdiac and Franco Belge stoves is also a disadvantage. I am referring to the relatively small fire pot. In order to reach rated output they must be run hot. This is an advantage because a hot fire is a more efficient fire with more CO burnt and coupled with good size heat exchange surface stack temperatures are low. The disadvantage is that a smaller fire burnt hot needs tending more frequently, usually every 8 hours instead of 12 when burning hot.

Another problem is the importers have assigned much higher BTU output ratings than the makers of the stoves. The stoves can probably reach those ratings but at the expense of probable damage to the stove if kept at those high outputs. That's why so many hoppers are damaged on Surdiacs.

The proper place for these stoves is in the living area which is what they were designed for and not in a basement where it is expected to heat an entire house.

The stove which is the subject of this thread not only looks good but I suspect it will be perfect for its intended use provided that the fireplace chimney can maintain adequate draft with the low stack temperatures of these stoves.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Visit Hitzer Stoves