Winter Tires

Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:34 am

mozz wrote:I love these Nokian tires so far. Made in Russia (if that means anything) ....

It means they weren't made in the USA. :(



Flyer5 wrote: I never worry about the back end with front wheel drive. As long as the front points where I need to go the rest is behind me. Just have to know how to use the go pedal when necessary instead of the brakes.

Why can everyone have that same knowledge? :roll: Every single person I've seen lose control in the snow had the brakes stomped to the floor as they careened out of control. :lol: This should be drilled into peoples brains WHILE they are getting their drivers license for the first time, especially in the northeast!
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:58 am

I lived in Washington, DC years ago. When we got more than a coating of snow, the city shut down, literally. A couple inches of snow and the Federal Government closed. All non essential workers went home, schools closed and the roads were a nightmare. More fun for me! I can remember driving down a deserted Pennsylvania Avenue in my '78 Diesel Rabbit and pulling the parking brake and spinning out for the fun of it. When I was learning to drive, my dad took me to an empty snow covered parking lot in the old family Country Squire station wagon and told me to "play" stomped on gas, locked the brakes, did donuts. He taught me, in a controlled manner, what a car can and does do in snow and ice. I knew what to do long before I had to do it on the road, in traffic. Thanks Dad!!! :D
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:08 am

Flyer5 wrote:Studded snows on my Jetta. All seasons on the rear. As long as I keep the front half of the car pointed where I want the rest follows just fine. It goes just about anywhere.



Do you mean to say you have studs on the front but not the back? That's not allowed in Maine. They passed a law that says (regardless of front wheel drive or rear wheel drive) if you have two studded tires that must be on the rear. If you want studs on the front you are required to have studs on the back. It's that "don't let your rear end pass you" thing.

Hmmm.... weird... I just made two phone calls. Both tire places agreed I was right, but, looking on the Internet at state laws....it seems it's NOT a law! But.... tire places seem to think it is....as I did! <brain melting>
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:11 am

I just do whatever the hell I want, and apply a little common sense. Screw their stupid laws. ;)
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:20 am

When I got my snow tires I wrestled with whether or not to get studs. I didn't. Is got braided tire chains for the front. Have never needed them,....yet.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:31 am

Freddy wrote:Do you mean to say you have studs on the front but not the back? That's not allowed in Maine ... If you want studs on the front you are required to have studs on the back ...
Hmmm.... weird... I just made two phone calls. Both tire places agreed I was right, but, looking on the Internet at state laws....it seems it's NOT a law! But.... tire places seem to think it is....as I did!

It is part of the inspection rules. Not sure whether it is explicitly defined by law, or just a regulation based on law.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 7:25 pm

Many tire places won't sell you just 2 snow tires. All or nothing apparently :mad:
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:10 pm

Freddy wrote:
Flyer5 wrote:Studded snows on my Jetta. All seasons on the rear. As long as I keep the front half of the car pointed where I want the rest follows just fine. It goes just about anywhere.



Do you mean to say you have studs on the front but not the back? That's not allowed in Maine. They passed a law that says (regardless of front wheel drive or rear wheel drive) if you have two studded tires that must be on the rear. If you want studs on the front you are required to have studs on the back. It's that "don't let your rear end pass you" thing.

Hmmm.... weird... I just made two phone calls. Both tire places agreed I was right, but, looking on the Internet at state laws....it seems it's NOT a law! But.... tire places seem to think it is....as I did! <brain melting>



PA is still free choice. :D
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:16 pm

SMITTY wrote:I just do whatever the hell I want, and apply a little common sense. Screw their stupid laws. ;)


damn right
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:52 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Many tire places won't sell you just 2 snow tires. All or nothing apparently :mad:

WWW.TIRERACK.COM
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Freddy On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 8:57 pm

rberq wrote:It is part of the inspection rules.


Oh good! I'm not crazy. My mother never had me tested.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:18 pm

Tire Rack and all tire manufacturers recommend that winter / snow tires only be installed in sets of four. Online orders of fewer than four winter / snow tires may result in a follow-up phone call from one of our product specialists to verify that your new tires will match those currently installed on your vehicle.


Above from Tire Rack website.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:20 pm

First I've heard of that - I've ordered more sets of 2 and 4 than I can count. Never got a phone call.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:27 pm

They probably never call,...they just want to sell more tires and rims. I have to admit, I did buy 4 snow tires and steel rims From Tirerack.com 2 winters ago.
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Re: Winter Tires

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:28 pm

SMITTY wrote:First I've heard of that - I've ordered more sets of 2 and 4 than I can count. Never got a phone call.


You must be on their do not call list for some other reason.
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