New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: mzzchif On: Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:13 pm

Hi Everyone...
My HyfireII installation was completed Thursday night. I can't believe the heat it puts out! My doberman is now a happy dog...he's warm! My friends (Pocono Newbies) told me how much they love their Hyfire and hated their pellet stove...so that's the one I went with. I had to get off propane - it was getting too expensive.

It is installed in my garage and ducted into the furnace - the installer built a hot air jacket for it. I'm now heating a 720 sqft finished attached garage that was previously unheated along with 1560 sqft manufactured home on a crawl space.

I'm trying to figure this stove and settings out. I had a rough first 12 hours with the stove...had the CO detectors going off twice, burned probably 100 lbs coal. Things seem to be running better now, but I don't think it's quite right yet.

My need for knowledge... hope you can give me some insight.
- What does the CFT on the coal trol do for me? Installers put it at 10
- My flame seems to be high when it's burning - usually 3 - 4" of flame - is this high? how do I adjust this. Installer thought there was an adjustment on the combustion fan (?)...if so where and how?
- ash output... I'm getting a popcorny type output (picture attached) with either (a) not fully burned coal or (b) a lot of clinkers - picture attached. I'm burning Reading bagged coal right now.

Currently the stove is in idle - i reduced my day and night temp by 3* because it was getting too hot in the house. I have 3-4" of ash from grate end, and a 1-2" burn area and maybe 1/2 - 1" of flame. (I was never very good at estimating meausrements)

I had a draft issue with dampness in the hopper and I think I fixed it with the damper weight. It was set at .02 (door open) and it's about .05 now. I'm also staging my coal to dry before loading it to be on the safe side.

My current settings:
FSA
D430 - 70
N1030 - 67
MIN - 6
MAX - 20
CFT - 10

Thanks for helping another newbie
Emily
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Dec 03, 2011 8:56 pm

First, do some reading on here, most of your questions have been answered in many threads. Use the search.

The MOISTURE and CO Problem is cause by your draft, did you set it with a good fire burning at about .04 on a draft gauge . The setting on the weight are only approx, you need a draft gauge (manometer) to set it correctly. NO Doors on the stove should be open to set the draft. It should be air tight. The port should be taken somewhere in the pipe close to the stove.

Your flames sound about right, they will be 3-6" high when fully burning. Get a Magnetic stove temp gauge and put it on the front, that will give you an indication of your temps. I have had my highfire I up to 550 degrees on the front! with no problems, they kick out the heat.

Your max might need to go up a bit higher, I think the standard is around 40 for the LL stoves. Depends if you are pushing hot coals off at full burn and FR (FEED RATE =99%). if you still have 1-2" of ash at full burn, bump the MAX up a couple points.

MAKE small adjustments, coal take time to respond.

Read the COALTROL section for V3 Features, explains many of the features.

Ash should look like Granola pieces, red or grey ash.
WNY
 
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: theo On: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:22 am

Hello and welcome to the coal forum ! I two have a hyfire 2 and really love it ! She will through some heat out! Cant help you out with the coal-trol but if you have any other questions just post them ! Flyer 5 ( part owner of LL ) gets on here from time to time and would always be willing to give some advice. You can even call the factory if it's something that cant be solved on the forum. Keep us posted on how you are doing.
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: mzzchif On: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:39 pm

Thanks for the welcome.
I have been reading on the site for a month or two while making my purchase decision. Reading and real life are completely different. I've seen the Leisure Line guys on here and how responsive they are. Actually was one of the deciding factors over other products. I did send Matt an email Friday since the site was down and he did respond. From what I've seen and read about their customer service is heads above the rest.

It's been going better, but outside temps been in the 50's.
Had dampness on the hopper lid again Sun AM, but adjusted the draft weight and it's dry again. I'm looking at getting a mamometer. Been trying to read through all the threads to figure out how to install and place.

I increased my max to 23 today, see how that goes for a day or two, I'll slowly work towards a higher max.

I just have many questions that I try to search and look thru as time allows.
I need to look at my furnace specs - the installers ducted into the furnace, but told me to run my fan all the time...I question this for electricity use and why I can't use my inside programmable thermostat to run the blower as needed vs all the time. I think that's why I've been so warm, been leaving the sliding door open to cool off. Actually closed the duct last night when checking the filter and forgot about it...gave the house a chance to cool down.


I have not cut the "cord" to my large propane tank yet while I learn the art of coal burning.
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Dec 05, 2011 6:46 pm

The max will only change when you are burning HIGH and FR=99. It might take a while to get it up that high.

Increase your MIN a bit also (maybe 8 or 10), that will get a bit more heat going up the chimney and keep a better draft when it's warm outside. Keeping the weight on the Baro UP a bit (.04-.06) will give you more draft from your stove and hopefully stop the moisture. It won't hurt anything. It just won't open until you get that much draft, but on lower setting and idle, you want as much draft pullin out of the stove.

Depending on what Coaltrol model, they have an one with an external relay to control your furnace (Possibly).

I wouldn't keep the furnace fan running all the time, unless you have a lot of heat being generated. I assume you removed the blowers from the hyfire and just using the furnace blower to pull the heat from the stove.

Post a pic or two of your setup if you get a chance.
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: theo On: Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:58 pm

mzzchif wrote:Thanks for the welcome.
I have been reading on the site for a month or two while making my purchase decision. Reading and real life are completely different. I've seen the Leisure Line guys on here and how responsive they are. Actually was one of the deciding factors over other products. I did send Matt an email Friday since the site was down and he did respond. From what I've seen and read about their customer service is heads above the rest.

It's been going better, but outside temps been in the 50's.
Had dampness on the hopper lid again Sun AM, but adjusted the draft weight and it's dry again. I'm looking at getting a mamometer. Been trying to read through all the threads to figure out how to install and place.

I increased my max to 23 today, see how that goes for a day or two, I'll slowly work towards a higher max.

I just have many questions that I try to search and look thru as time allows.
I need to look at my furnace specs - the installers ducted into the furnace, but told me to run my fan all the time...I question this for electricity use and why I can't use my inside programmable thermostat to run the blower as needed vs all the time. I think that's why I've been so warm, been leaving the sliding door open to cool off. Actually closed the duct last night when checking the filter and forgot about it...gave the house a chance to cool down.


I have not cut the "cord" to my large propane tank yet while I learn the art of coal burning.

Welcome to the WARMTH of COAL,,,,, open them window-stats !! :up: :up: :up:
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Re: New Hyfire and New to Coal questions

PostBy: Pocono Newbies On: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:45 pm

Well here you are, found you! This is a great group and they've helped me plenty during our real newbie period, right Dave? LOL! The LL guys are on here too, and are a great help. Any questions, you can call or email me, too!
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