More DVC stuff

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:28 am

Ain't you grumpy at 4 AM


.... and that was after my first cup of coffee, you were lucky.... I don't do mornings.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:28 pm

I was going to recommend a DVC-500 to a friend of mine, but after reading about all the electronic stuff that can go wrong I think it will send him in a different direction.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: ablumny On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:15 pm

Rob R. wrote:I was going to recommend a DVC-500 to a friend of mine, but after reading about all the electronic stuff that can go wrong I think it will send him in a different direction.


What shame, hard to put up an argument but when it's working, it's a great unit.
ablumny
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman dvc500
Coal Size/Type: Rice


Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:20 pm

Rob R. wrote:I was going to recommend a DVC-500 to a friend of mine, but after reading about all the electronic stuff that can go wrong I think it will send him in a different direction.

Keeping something simple is the hardest thing to design and engineer. Complex is easy.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 3:57 pm

Seems like if you spring for a brand new one, you may get lucky and get 4 good years... :?
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:41 am

Seems like if you spring for a brand new one, you may get lucky and get 4 good years...


You see, just like I told you, trained at the GM factory. They are sooooo good at their job I think they deserve a $12MM bonus right out of our pockets...... and you think I am joking.

Wait a minute here, what am I doing? Directing people to POS New Harman (post HNI) stoves? Old Harman are still great!!!!! I am still ready to carry on but we (I) need to get to the bottom of albumnys agony. Of course, I am not mentally exhausted from weeks of battling this stuff. We know about better thermistors and motors. Harman techs know crap about their products (surprise, surprise) and have no intention of supporting them. Clean power is good for any electronic device no surprise there. So now we are down to the board(s) and pressure switch yes? Well, I am not going to trace out the circuit and breadboard it and then reverse engineer it so I need to get to the bottom of this or my DVC AND my P38+ are going to Craigslist.

Albumny keep us informed of this saga. What is your next move?
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: ablumny On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 8:43 am

My next move is to get my new control board back from the dealer plus the pressure switch. I may need to buy a new model ECP ( red leads ) as well.

Then I'm going to send coalnewbie a case of decaf coffee! :lol: and A book on breathing excersises to calm down with....your going to bust an artery over this :D ...( but thx for the support !)
ablumny
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman dvc500
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:40 am

When you lead a boring existence mental stimulation is a good thing. I haven't had this much fun since I got my foot caught in the washing machine. :) but ah, red leads, as I told you that is different mine are black!! They must have made profound design changes (powered thermistor? -1000ohm???) and altered the colors so their mentally deficient service techs would not get confused.!!!! The plot thickens obviously only for me - now here did I put that signal injector?

Am I relaxed about this? Well I can now put way the chain saw I was gong to have to take to the dining room table to make heat in order to avoid giving Harman another $1000, but with you it's obviously easy come, easy go. LOL - the way to be. Let's all go out and buy new GM cars.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: eelhc On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:18 pm

franco b wrote:
Rob R. wrote:I was going to recommend a DVC-500 to a friend of mine, but after reading about all the electronic stuff that can go wrong I think it will send him in a different direction.

Keeping something simple is the hardest thing to design and engineer. Complex is easy.


So true... It was a lifetime effort for Steve Jobs.
eelhc
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman Magnum Stoker

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: 009to090 On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:12 pm

ablumny wrote:My next move is to get my new control board back from the dealer plus the pressure switch. I may need to buy a new model ECP ( red leads ) as well.

It appears mine is the new model, with the red leads (ECP). No wonder it took them 8 months to build it for me. They must've been retooling. This is year 3 for my stove. No issues to date. We'll see if it makes it past year 4.

Coalnewbie, how old is your P38+ ?
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:19 pm

blrman07 wrote:I have been following this and I have a question. This is a coal stove right? I mean I would have chucked this thing a LONG time ago.


I too have been following the DVC threads. Its very unfortunate the trouble that some have had with them in the past weeks. Like you the thing would have been in the bed of my truck on its way to the scrap yard. Watching the threads has also completely turned me off to anything from the Harman catalog. Which is sad really, but I won't put my self through it. My house is hard enough to keep warm without the worry of my furnace/stove/boiler going down.

I feel for everyone whose had issues with their DVC-500 and hope that they can get them working or find something else in the meantime.
I'm On Fire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 17, 2011 5:38 am

Watching the threads has also completely turned me off to anything from the Harman catalog.


Now come on Fire be positive buy a New Magnum. Pretty as well and with those all new plastic wheels off the pellet line they can save money making them. Those coal newbie fools will never know. Now the HNI management can boast to the shareholders they made more money from the idiots. With a little luck, coal dust will get in them wheels or a bolt will go through the coal and bingo another 5 series Beamer ends up on the yard of the local Harman dealer. He will gladly come over after a three month delay and after you have frozen to death and put a new set of wheels in backwards (I only do pellet stoves you see - how was I supposed to know?). The HNI shareholders will be happy too. This is the new America we must all adjust.

I refuse to play that game too. :mad:

Yes I know albumny, I have to quit coffee in the morning.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 180K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93,
Baseburners & Antiques: Invader 2 Wings Best, Glenwood #8 + Herald 116x
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: More DVC stuff

PostBy: ablumny On: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:56 pm

Can't argue the point made, it's the delivery that's fun to read :D ( for me at least). Try decaf......
ablumny
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman dvc500
Coal Size/Type: Rice