Violent Sudden Jerks

Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:08 pm

:eek2: :eek2: :eek2: My brain cannot comprehend these numbers. MENTAL OVERLOAD!! :crazy: :wacko:

WAAAAAY TOO HIGH for just a rear axle assembly. Either I'm 2 decades out of the loop ... or there's some serious skullduggery goin' on here ...

$2 - 300 sounds reasonable to me for a rear axle assembly - brakes included! Maybe this is the way it is with foreign vehicles??? Tell me it isn't so!!

An assembly can be installed by a rookie in a few hours. Very basic. Rebuilding the assembly takes LOTS of patience, a dial indicator, & prussian blue. If you don't know what those things are, stay out of the rear diff & buy the whole assembly out of a similar-mileage vehicle (read >50k miles).
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: mozz On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:10 pm

You won't find a good rear for a Titan or Armada in a junk yard. Unless it was hit and just brought in. With the Currie, you basically get everything, except the center part with the gears, (ring and pinion). You would have to buy that separate, and the gear ratio has to match the one ratio you took out. That is where the 2.94 and 3.36 numbers come in. Trying to find a Dana or Ford rear with those gears would be tough, so you would most likely have to buy new. Not cheap. Then the gears have to be set up properly when installed, someone whom does rear axles for a living. The Currie bolts right in then. Lots of extras besides the initial part. Factory setup would be cheaper overall and hopefully, somewhat improved from the original design. I would call another Nissan dealer for a second estimate if any are in your area. Maybe the ring or pinion gear is just bad but you won't know until it is taken apart. A transmission shop or a racing shop may be able to do the job cheaper(by only replacing exactly what is bad) if you just want it to run again then sell it quickly.
Seems lots of people are really pissed at Nissan for this problem.

"Lets face it, the Dana diff in our truck is weak, period. They should have put a better diff in but they didn't. After the 04-05 problems with the diff, they should have replaced it or fixed it. They didn't. The 07 and 08 Titans should have big, strong diffs capable of the 9500 pound rating, but they don't. It is a shame we are not talking about how great this truck drives, handles, how much power it has and how it is the best looking truck out there. But we are not. We are talking about exploding diffs. That is Nissans fault, period. Maybe one day they will smarten up and fix the problems instead of sticking their head in the sand. Maybe not?'
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http://www.titantalk.com/forums/titan-e ... lures.html
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:15 pm

Wow .. I guess I haven't made a bad choice in sticking with old GM's for the most part. That's insane ....

I've grown accustomed to finding 12 of what I need in any junkyard across the state. This thing sounds like it's hard to come by. Explains the price of everything - especially if your forced to buy new, and on top of it, pay for a ring, pinion, setup & bearings. Holy carrappper! :shock:
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:34 pm

Sorry for my ignorance if i buy the currie package, what center, other things do i need? How much each, what brand?
Anything existing i can reuse?

Any pics would really help me :oops:
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: mozz On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:47 pm

I wouldn't buy the Currie or any aftermarket differential myself due to the total price. It is more heavy duty, maybe more than you would ever need. You would have to get that estimate from a mechanic. Paying $2800 at the dealer is a lot but if you plan on keeping the truck for "x" amount of more years, and the rest of the vehicle is in good shape, it might be well worth it. Please go read all you can at the titantalk.com about the failures. They are even saying when the dealer installed the new differential, they were noticing there was no breather. They are supposed to move the old breather over to the new diff and they didn't do it. Big can of worms. Like i said earlier, my co-worker had his blow out 2 or 3 times in warranty, with the help of a lawyer, he got a check for a few thousand, but if it goes again, kiss that money goodbye.
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:49 pm

I'd search the country online for one out of a recent wreck. Even with shipping that has to be the cheapest way out. I feel for ya man .... :o
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:00 pm

I got a list of local junk yards going to start my search, and also going to see about the price of overhaul.

I'm willing to pay a finders fee for a good find if anyone is interested?
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:16 pm

Insurance companies and us body shops use

http://www.car-part.com

You can look regional or nationwide for the part.




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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: McGiever On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:26 pm

Which one matches yours?


2005 Nissan Truck-Titan
Transmission


A.T., 4x2, LSD, col shift
A.T., 4x2, LSD, floor shift
A.T., 4x2, non-locking Rr diff, col shift
A.T., 4x2, non-locking Rr diff, floor shift
A.T., 4x4, LSD, col shift
A.T., 4x4, LSD, floor shift
A.T., 4x4, non-locking Rr diff, col shift
A.T., 4x4, non-locking Rr diff, floor shift
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:49 pm

Its 43003-ZH06D part im not sure about lsd or not? I have a button that locks all wheels does that help?
4x4 floor shift.
complaints.



http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/complaints/complaintresults.cfm?start=1&SearchType=DrillDown&type=1&year=2005&make=NISSAN&model=TITAN&component_id=195&PrintVersion=YES
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:01 am

LSD probably means "Limited Slip Differential."



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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:14 pm

Well the saga continues, called the local body shop here in kensington and they are saying that ct law doesn't allow them to put one in unless they can warranty it.

Can anyone confirm.
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:13 pm

McGiever wrote:Which one matches yours?


2005 Nissan Truck-Titan
Transmission


A.T., 4x2, LSD, col shift
A.T., 4x2, LSD, floor shift
A.T., 4x2, non-locking Rr diff, col shift
A.T., 4x2, non-locking Rr diff, floor shift
A.T., 4x4, LSD, col shift
A.T., 4x4, LSD, floor shift
A.T., 4x4, non-locking Rr diff, col shift
A.T., 4x4, non-locking Rr diff, floor shift


A.T. 4x4, rear locking differential, off road with big tow package. Would that be LSD? the nissan guys couldnt tell me anymore based on vin.
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:15 pm

SMITTY wrote::eek2: :eek2: :eek2: My brain cannot comprehend these numbers. MENTAL OVERLOAD!! :crazy: :wacko:

WAAAAAY TOO HIGH for just a rear axle assembly. Either I'm 2 decades out of the loop ... or there's some serious skullduggery goin' on here ...

$2 - 300 sounds reasonable to me for a rear axle assembly - brakes included! Maybe this is the way it is with foreign vehicles??? Tell me it isn't so!!

An assembly can be installed by a rookie in a few hours. Very basic. Rebuilding the assembly takes LOTS of patience, a dial indicator, & prussian blue. If you don't know what those things are, stay out of the rear diff & buy the whole assembly out of a similar-mileage vehicle (read >50k miles).


A few body shops have now said two things:

1. We make money on parts we will not put in a part you order and we need to warranty it by ct law.
2. We dont repair rear axles we only replace them.
:mad3:
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Re: Violent Sudden Jerks

PostBy: mozz On: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:48 pm

Don't call a body shop, call a transmission shop or someone who works on race vehicles or 4wds. You may have a hard time getting parts. I think you are going to end up going to the Nissan dealer anyway. I have had a Honda dealer tell me to buy the parts somewhere else, cv half shafts, they then installed them for me. Try to talk to a Nissan mechanic and see if he will do the job on the side.
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