need some chimney help

need some chimney help

PostBy: Boots On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:19 pm

I need some chimney help, I am getting ready to install my hand fired Burnham woodlander SFB-101. It has, and i quote the manual (thank you coaledsweat) "8 nominal, flue pipe" Later in the manual it says "smoke pipe must not be smaller than canopy outlet". Does this mean i can NOT connect this boiler to my existing chimney being that it is a
7-1/4" X 7-1/4" (inside measurement ) square chimney and the liner going through my basement wall is 7" round? If i connect the coal boiler to this chimney it will NOT be servicing any other appliance. I am planning to "power vent" my Oil fired boiler in order to free up my chimney for the coal boiler.

cliff notes:

chimney 7-1/4" X 7-1/4" square
liner going through wall 7" round
boiler canopy outlet 8"

Natural draft hand fired boiler

will it work.
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6 In the basement........
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Burnham SFB 101

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 9:24 pm

Yes, it will be fine, it is better to reduce at thimble than directly out of stove, and an 8" down to a 7" isn't so bad for a thimble dumping into a 7-1/4" square. ;)
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: Boots On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:24 pm

McGiever wrote:Yes, it will be fine, it is better to reduce at thimble than directly out of stove, and an 8" down to a 7" isn't so bad for a thimble dumping into a 7-1/4" square. ;)



Thank you for the fast reply. I thought that it might be ok, I have to re arrange my circ return lines in order to get the stove pipe over to the chimney but the extra plumbing work IMO is well worth the money saved on double wall SS pipe and/or the avoided labor of building a block chimney.
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6 In the basement........
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Burnham SFB 101


Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:28 pm

Your welcome. :)

I hear you on that bit of plumbing being well worth the end results there. :idea: :!:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:20 am

How tall is that chimney and is it in or outside of the house?
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: Boots On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:04 am

coaledsweat wrote:How tall is that chimney and is it in or outside of the house?



The chimney is outside of the house, it is a block chimney with a brown brick facade. It is somewhere between 17' and 18' in height.

also do i need a barometric damper on the coal stove considering it is a natural draft, I cant find anything in the owners manual about it.
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6 In the basement........
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Burnham SFB 101

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:10 pm

The baro will limit total draft, I recommend it. If you overdraft, the extra heat you make goes up the chimney instead of heating your home. All heating appliances have some heat going up the chimney as waste to keep them going. It's a balancing act to try and keep most of the heat for yourself, set properly a baro is very good at that.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:16 pm

Boots wrote:also do i need a barometric damper on the coal stove considering it is a natural draft, I cant find anything in the owners manual about it.

FIGURE 10: "Draft regulator (optional) may be installed if coal is the only fuel used."
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: need some chimney help

PostBy: Boots On: Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:44 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
Boots wrote:also do i need a barometric damper on the coal stove considering it is a natural draft, I cant find anything in the owners manual about it.

FIGURE 10: "Draft regulator (optional) may be installed if coal is the only fuel used."



I am going to install a baro damper on the coal stove. got it set aside for me at my local plumbing/heating supply store along with the "controller" for my power vent and my zone valve which they should have Monday.

after those things are purchased i can install the power vent on the oil fired boiler that will free up my chimney for the coal boiler then i can take some measurements so i can get the rest of my plumbing supplies then she will be ready to fire up!
Boots
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KA-6 In the basement........
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Burnham SFB 101