While looking for coal mice

samhill wrote:I think it's some right wing the only green that matters is $ type that just wants to rip anybody off to make his green. Why does everybody blame things on the left but yet defend businesses that they like, we all know that business would ever do anything but create jobs, not necessarily in our country but jobs none the less.

Because the left is WRONG Sam. We've been trying to tell you this for years now ...

Don't tell me Smitty, show me. That's where you all seem to run into problems, I'm always open to truth. Just like now show me where the right has my lower middle class(if I'm that lucky) interests in mind.
And by the way where any coal mice ever found & if so where & how much?

samhill wrote:Don't tell me Smitty, show me. That's where you all seem to run into problems, I'm always open to truth. Just like now show me where the right has my lower middle class(if I'm that lucky) interests in mind.
And by the way where any coal mice ever found & if so where & how much?

Thats what I want to know. All I found was 10 on ebay for $30..

Would coal be considered hazardous to ship through USPS because it is a solid fuel? Or maybe it's a mineral?

mozz wrote:Would coal be considered hazardous to ship through USPS because it is a solid fuel? Or maybe it's a mineral?

It's just rock's...

Good, i'll ship rocks, i just bought http://www.peacoal.com and http://www.poconocoal.com, wonder how much i can make in my 18 years remaining until retirement? Going to need employees and warehousing and a government loan. Hey Obama, if i give away a free solar panel with every order can i get a few hundred $$$mil? I would think shipping coal mice in the mail would be illegal?

mozz wrote:Would coal be considered hazardous to ship through USPS because it is a solid fuel? Or maybe it's a mineral?

No, it would not. It's ignition point is probably twice that of what it is shipped in.

samhill wrote:I think it's some right wing the only green that matters is $ type that just wants to rip anybody off to make his green. Why does everybody blame things on the left but yet defend businesses that they like, we all know that business would ever do anything but create jobs, not necessarily in our country but jobs none the less.

Just dont see any serious coal burners buying from this guy, most serious coal burners are sharp and self reliant and would not be fooled. The only ones fooled are the people searching for an alternative or reading about coal.

Lots of anti coal movements out there and i think there is an interest to make anthracite seem expensive and dirty.

Affordable my ass. For $3000 a ton I'd go back to burning oil.

grumpy wrote:

samhill wrote:Don't tell me Smitty, show me. That's where you all seem to run into problems, I'm always open to truth. Just like now show me where the right has my lower middle class(if I'm that lucky) interests in mind.
And by the way where any coal mice ever found & if so where & how much?

Thats what I want to know. All I found was 10 on ebay for $30..

search for down east stoves but you really dont need them.

I'm On Fire wrote:Affordable my ass. For $3000 a ton I'd go back to burning oil.

Exactly it doesnt make any sense besides a smear campaign, most inner city folk will be on nat gas due to storage, renting, availability and low cost.

If youre not in a concentrated area good luck getting natgas, i have the algoncuin pipe line going about a mile away but will they put it in, no way not dense enough in this area.

So we are left with five other choices besides coal.
Wood - well its cheap, takes a lot of room, some towns outlaw outside boilers, and then theres the cutting, splitting, ants, and seasoning. Also not as efficient but if you cant get anthracite then its an alternative.
Pellets - not as efficient and just as costly as coal.
Electrical - yeah right.
Propane - Dont even get me going on the thievery thats going on here. search this forum.
oil - Besides the fact its $$$$$, have you ever served, had a son-daughter or neighboor serve? Why send money to those that want to kill you?

Anyway were does 3000/ton coal fit in? Nowhere so the next logical explanation is that its a gag site or a smear campaign for either oil or nat gas industry.

It's apparently for the purchase of novelty items and possibly an outlet for those blacksmithing which you might be surprised to learn many people do. If you have no coal in your area this would be one way to get it. I had one customer that did it and asked if I could get soft coal and I had to explain even if I could it would probably be more due to shipping. From the site:

Anthracite is the best coal on the planet for blacksmithing - highest heat with virtually no smoke.

My understanding is that is not the case, at least this is what was explained to me from the customer. The coal they have in the pictures appears to be soft coal. If it isn't that pea coal they have in their image is pretty damn dirty.

samhill wrote:Don't tell me Smitty, show me. That's where you all seem to run into problems, I'm always open to truth. Just like now show me where the right has my lower middle class(if I'm that lucky) interests in mind.

Oh my gosh, - you've been provided tons of the evidence that the Left and particularly the current administration is on the fast track to destroying this country and all it stands for. We've also provided tons of facts and evidence that the Right is fighting to stop this; to save the American dream. The standard of living of all Americans is going nowhere but down (documented fact)and you just keep harping about the Right shares the blame too; no one is disputing that. But if you need more evidence that Left is out to destroy this country for their personal agenda just listen to the speech O'bama gave on Monday in KS or look to how the Federal Deficient has more then tripled since the Democrats took office 3 years ago. And lets not forget how the Obamacare was forced down our throats and is already causing our medical cost to increase while providing less service. It's a fact we have less individual freedom then we had just 3 short years ago.

It's clear to me that we don't have a problem providing you the facts; you have a problem accepting them as the truth they are.

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Lisa, sorry you feel that way but to me your indisputable facts are highly disputable. You put a lot of blame where it doesn't belong or even could. As for the debt, I think anyone with common sense knows that if your income is reduces (tax base) & your expenditures rise(two wars, welfare,U.C., drug plan, compound int) hope you can see where I'm going here, then the debt can do nothing but increase. You really don't see anyone in Gov. trying earnestly to reduce costs, no one has said well the houses could give up a bit in perks or pay. They will however say well we can cut medi-care & S.S. & at the same time they protect or at least fail to mention welfare (they are afraid). They from the start went into this Presidency period with one thought in mind & that was to end it, country be damned if thats what it takes. They are willing to cut the middle class to hell & back when they are the ones that keep the country going but by all means protect the extremely wealthy.

No, Sam what I see is the House passing bills that would make a huge difference in the standard of living of the middle class - of everyone in this country - and the Democratically controlled Senate filing them in the trash can under Harry Reid's desk. I see the Obama policies "necessarily causing our energy bills to skyrocket" and the Dems changing the locks on the meeting room doors so the Republicans can't get in. I see Obama threatening to Veto bills that would actually provide thousands of jobs for the middle class because those bills negatively impact his buddies and would affect his campaign drives. I see the policies of the Left working on destroying the middle class through the redistributing of the wealth policies they created. The truth is not hard to see.

Hey, just for laughs and giggles why don't you make a list of how the Dems are helping the middle class? That should be interesting. You could start with the looking at the cost of living since Obama came into office. No, wait that's gone up and the standard of living has gone down. My bad. My grocery bill has gone up but yet I'm buying less. Or explain how gas was around 1.75 before Obama took office and now it's 3.50. Really, I'd be interested in seeing how you think the Left has made life so much better for the middle class.

For whatever reason you have chosen to turn a blind eye to the facts. That's your right, just don't expect me to go along with it silently.

This has gone way off topic so if you chose to answer it maybe wise to start a new topic. I'll be looking for it.