The Cold Weather Is Here!
- michaelanthony
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Really? You must be paying a lot less than me. It's $3.70 per gallon here.
Yeah 369.9 lol, you know, the first gallon last alot longer than the last gallon
You don't have a minimum 100 gallon delivery? We do up here.[/quote]
The local company dropped it to 50 gal. if you pay at time of delivery.
Really? You must be paying a lot less than me. It's $3.70 per gallon here.
Yeah 369.9 lol, you know, the first gallon last alot longer than the last gallon
You don't have a minimum 100 gallon delivery? We do up here.[/quote]
The local company dropped it to 50 gal. if you pay at time of delivery.
- michaelanthony
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Thanks for the thread, how is your set up going? I have a question, would a circulating pump balance the system i.e. tempurature, or would it cause the water to be heated faster than your present system? I am also curious if a water coil was placed between the wall of the stove and the wall of the hot air jacket if I would get an easier controlled water flow?Lightning wrote:Have a look at this threadmichaelanthony wrote:10* in millinocket this morning, wife thinks oil is cheap immediately after a delivery. Had to get 50 gal. for the hot water heater but that is in the works for change, put the stove in the basement about 10 ft. from the hw tank. That will help preheat pipes etc. Next season I'll work on coal fired hot water.
Hot Water Coil Project
- Lightning
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Its working great SO far I've seen my electric bill fall $50.00 but I'm not finished with the hot tub part yet. Hmmm coil between the firebox and the jacket.. I don't think it would pick up much heat. Some people on here have done homebrew style external water coils on the outsides of their stoves, but I can't vouch for it's success..
I don't think a circulator would add any benefit since the preheated tank is close to the furnace and raised up on blocks to accommodate the water's natural convection thru the coil. I'm on the team that thinks that a circulator would mix the water in the tank, instead of letting it naturally stratify (cold on the bottom, warmer as you go to the top of the tank). This would be a negative effect since, as soon as you introduced cold water, instead of it settling at the bottom, it would mix with all the water in the tank while your using hot water. SO the end result would be that the temperature of the water taken from the preheated tank would immediately start to fall as its mixed with the incoming cold water. Not the effect we are looking for
I don't think a circulator would add any benefit since the preheated tank is close to the furnace and raised up on blocks to accommodate the water's natural convection thru the coil. I'm on the team that thinks that a circulator would mix the water in the tank, instead of letting it naturally stratify (cold on the bottom, warmer as you go to the top of the tank). This would be a negative effect since, as soon as you introduced cold water, instead of it settling at the bottom, it would mix with all the water in the tank while your using hot water. SO the end result would be that the temperature of the water taken from the preheated tank would immediately start to fall as its mixed with the incoming cold water. Not the effect we are looking for
- michaelanthony
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I like your three valve set up, makes good sense. I see a hot water coil in my future, maybe the spring. That will give me time to hunt down a holding tank. I like the idea of thermosyphin ( I know I spelled it wrong ), for the reason of no electric. thanks Lightning. Mike.Lightning wrote:Its working great SO far I've seen my electric bill fall $50.00 but I'm not finished with the hot tub part yet. Hmmm coil between the firebox and the jacket.. I don't think it would pick up much heat. Some people on here have done homebrew style external water coils on the outsides of their stoves, but I can't vouch for it's success..
I don't think a circulator would add any benefit since the preheated tank is close to the furnace and raised up on blocks to accommodate the water's natural convection thru the coil. I'm on the team that thinks that a circulator would mix the water in the tank, instead of letting it naturally stratify (cold on the bottom, warmer as you go to the top of the tank). This would be a negative effect since, as soon as you introduced cold water, instead of it settling at the bottom, it would mix with all the water in the tank while your using hot water. SO the end result would be that the temperature of the water taken from the preheated tank would immediately start to fall as its mixed with the incoming cold water. Not the effect we are looking for
- sterling40man
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The thermo says 1.2* as I'm typing. Weatherman says it's close to -15* wind chill!
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Hell, I feel bad posting this---28* here on the hill this AM--looking for mid to upper 50's this week end
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Same here. Just went outside to water the horses and was warm with just a sweatshirt. It was 29degrees. Nice weather for the end of November.freetown fred wrote:Hell, I feel bad posting this---28* here on the hill this AM--looking for mid to upper 50's this week end
- sterling40man
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Tell me about it! Topped it off last night. When I checked it this morning.......I burned 40lbs in 12 hours!! Supposed to get back in the 40's next week.Rob R. wrote:You better go top off the hopper, you will burn some coal today!
8 degrees here, windchill is about 0.
No you don't!freetown fred wrote:Hell, I feel bad posting this---28* here on the hill this AM
- SteveZee
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Oh yeah Sterling, this is a little taste for us. It's 13 degrees here on the coast at my house but 9 degrees just a few miles away in town away from the water. Windchill right at zero they are saying. Tonight will be single digits too calling for 7 degrees. My cookstove is reading 350 on the oven gauge and the MO 116 is 475 degrees and this old house is toasty right at 71 which believe me is very comfy in this 226yr old home. I have not burned a drop of oil except for the 5 days I was whooping'in it up in Portland with Kim.sterling40man wrote:The thermo says 1.2* as I'm typing. Weatherman says it's close to -15* wind chill!
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1 below zero here in Easton Maine! Wood boiler is humping....wish I had coal instead!sterling40man wrote:The thermo says 1.2* as I'm typing. Weatherman says it's close to -15* wind chill!
- SteveZee
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Heck yeah! You have my supplier (Center Farms) right down the road! My place is loving it.Northern Maine wrote:1 below zero here in Easton Maine! Wood boiler is humping....wish I had coal instead!sterling40man wrote:The thermo says 1.2* as I'm typing. Weatherman says it's close to -15* wind chill!
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Couldn't ask for better people too deal with I have known the owners since I was able to walk! They are only 4 miles from me!SteveZee wrote:Heck yeah! You have my supplier (Center Farms) right down the road! My place is loving it.Northern Maine wrote: 1 below zero here in Easton Maine! Wood boiler is humping....wish I had coal instead!
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12 degrees here.....like Miami !!! River will ice up earlier this year.... Is this a 'cord a week' weather up there? Somehow Global Warming becomes insignificant when it is below zero......and the main mission is staying alive and not freezing in the process. AMEN to the fine folks at Center Farms, they have been a quiet Superstar in the coal supply chain for years.....and you are GONNA sell that Central Boiler and slip an Anthracite Stoker in it's place.....fueled by coal from you neighbors!