Midweek repair

Midweek repair

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:18 pm

First time I have seen this happen. 2 years old, still had 12 psi, boiler water pH is 8.5.

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Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:21 pm

Friggin Upstate water,looks a little like what was coming out of my water heater :( scrape, wire brush, JB Weld :D I know, I know, only in Freetown. toothy
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:27 pm

I doubt the water had anything to do with it, I am blaming this on a manufacturing defect.

My well water tested at 22 grains per gallon of hardness, pH is 7.0, zero iron, and a few PPM of sulfur. Could be better...could be a lot worse. I have a nice water softener and an activated charcoal system that makes the tap water a pleasure to drink.

Want me to send you the old tank for a JB Weld & duct tape repair?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy


Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:39 pm

I'd bet you've been on the phone already.??
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: MATTHEW D. On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:12 pm

That sucks! I never seen that happen either. Do you think they will replace it after 2 years?
MATTHEW D.
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AXEMAN-ANDERSON & EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 130 & 900 x 2

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:46 pm

I just dug out the box and it says 5 year limited warranty. Tomorrow I will make the call.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:00 pm

Seems like a defect. The water is a little on the basic side, but not that much.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:09 pm

I am pretty sure boiler water is supposed to be basic...somewhere I have a book that mentions treatment of boiler water.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: jim d On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:13 pm

it doesn't make any difference it 5years on extrolls that will leave you 3 years on the new one
jim d
 
Stove/Furnace Make: alaska//coaljck
Stove/Furnace Model: liberty// cj3

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

Rob, are those for the boiler or for well water, and why two?
grumpy
 

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:54 pm

That be a big boy setup...
Big pair hangin' like that...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: AA130FIREMAN On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:59 pm

If I ever need to redue my exp. tanks ,I will use a ball valve above them, I one would fail, the other could get by till repaired, their wouldn't be a need to drain the system, and it would be possable to check the preload air once in a while.
AA130FIREMAN
 
Stove/Furnace Make: axeman anderson
Stove/Furnace Model: 130 anthratube

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:23 pm

Rob R. wrote:I am pretty sure boiler water is supposed to be basic...somewhere I have a book that mentions treatment of boiler water.


Since I know nothing about this I did some poking around on the 'net and you are correct:

Alkaline pH causes an oxide film to form on the boiler tube surfaces that protects the base metal from further corrosion and allows breaks in the film to heal efficiently.


http://www2.emersonprocess.com/siteadmi ... 900-85.pdf
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:27 am

grumpy wrote:Rob, are those for the boiler or for well water, and why two?


They are both on the boiler. One wasn't enough to keep the pressure stable. The oil boiler originally had a steel compression tank up in the ceiling joists, but that was replaced at some point. Whoever did the work installed an Extrol in its place. When I bought the house that Extrol was water-logged, and I read that the tanks shouldn't be on their side. Without a lot of repiping, it was easiest to mount them on the floor. Each tank sits on a 6" PVC coupler to keep it off the floor. Now that I am a few years wiser...I should have just bought a commercial floor mounted Extrol tank.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/buck
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Midweek repair

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:32 am

Mr Murphy says this will occur on an unnamed holiday week, usually late at night, in the privacy of some corner of the basement....blah, blah, blah. Once again, the need to have a spare of a few key parts comes up. Must have crushed up a few old Subarus or Kias to make that bunch of tanks. Bummer...but a couple days to make it better.....and short money for the repair.
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB