Really Temperamental Stove/Draft !!

CoalHeat · Post by **CoalHeat** » Wed. Sep. 03, 2008 9:54 pm

Nice work, Dallas. How did the Jub do hoisting the stove back in??

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Wed. Sep. 03, 2008 11:40 pm

It went in easy! Everything is hooked up and ready to go.

Adamiscold · Post by **Adamiscold** » Thu. Sep. 04, 2008 6:34 am

Nice work Dallas.

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Thu. Sep. 04, 2008 5:49 pm

Got another short 3/4 ton (.66T) of pea coal today. They seem to be missing it this season ... maybe, because the coal is dry. ??
I made a kind of wooden funnel, so that I would have a little more flexibility with the chute. As it was, I had to get the truck in just about the right place, and even then, as the load lightened and the truck rose, I had to adjust the chute.

The coal is to the top of the first removable gate on the bin (2/3s full), so one more similar load, should fill it.

Notice the sled by the back door

I'm ready

... unfortunately, that's there from last winter, when my niece was visiting with her kids.

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Adamiscold · Post by **Adamiscold** » Fri. Sep. 05, 2008 8:20 am

Nice creative thinking Dallas. Now you just need a hat and some mittens and maybe a little snow and you'll be all set to go sledding.

Freddy · Post by **Freddy** » Sat. Sep. 06, 2008 5:29 pm

Nice work Dallas...ya done dood! *smile*

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Mon. Sep. 08, 2008 3:36 pm

Each full scoop is 16 pounds of coal. Just about the right amount for my stove.

Filling the coal scooper from the new bin.

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Adamiscold · Post by **Adamiscold** » Mon. Sep. 08, 2008 6:23 pm

Great job with the video Dallas

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Mon. Sep. 08, 2008 6:26 pm

Thanks for all of your kind words.

I might be done with the upgrades, etc..

(I've said that before.)

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Fri. Sep. 12, 2008 11:49 am

To answer the "Big Question" of this thread, I don't know what cured the draft problems with my stove and chimney. It could be a combination of little things or maybe it took some "burning" to cure the chimney. .... After being built for 10 years

It seems to work good now.

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Sat. Nov. 17, 2012 1:05 pm

Hi everyone,
Yes, I'm still around

Everything is going good, but we're into a new heating season, so I had to make "additions". ... 'cause, it's what I do!

I felt, I would like to provide an outside air source for the stove, rather than using inside "conditioned air" for combustion, even though the stove has been burning great.

After pondering this project, my first trial was to use the "Fan-in-a- Can", which is tied to the furnace. I wired it, so that it would run, only, when the thermostat opened the damper on the stove (hand-fired), in addition to when the furnace ran. After some use, I decided the amount of air was over kill. Plus the "Fan-in-a- Can" was in the adjacent room (basement) and I felt it was probably cooling and supplying more air, than I needed or wanted.

Moving on: I had a 2" PVC pipe, from outdoors, running down to the back of the stove, with a stub coming forward. I never felt this, by itself, did much to satisfy the air needs of the stove combustion. So, decided to add a fan.

I bought a 55 CFM axial fan (4.5" x 4.5") and made a 24" long box to fit the fan and cross behind the stove. I installed a 2" fitting on the inlet and (2) 1-/2" fittings for outlets, which have stubs running to the front of the stove. I wired the fan, once again, to run only when the thermostat, upstairs, called for heat and opened the slide damper on the stove. I didn't have any feel for the size of the fan, but I feel the 55 CFM was a good choice. There is a steady, slow airflow in front of the damper openings.

There are more wires running to this "hand fired" than to most computers!!

This stove and installation has become "so hybrid", that I don't know what I'd replace it with, if I ever needed to.

Yes! A couple of the pic are a little fuzzy.

LsFarm · Post by **LsFarm** » Sat. Nov. 17, 2012 2:47 pm

Hi Dallas ~~ good to 'hear' from you.

YOu have that 'hand fired' wired up like an astronaut !!

Glad to see your post

Greg L

KLook · Post by **KLook** » Sat. Nov. 17, 2012 3:34 pm

I am curious as to why you feel the need to have a fan? The air will be pulled from the easiest path naturally. If that is not your pipe, make the pipe bigger. No fan necessary. I put 2 screened 4 in. vents in my boiler rm. door going out to the storage area which has openings to the great outdoors. The baro pulls 24/7 and there is plenty of air when the hot water heater kicks on or the combustion fan on the boiler. Are you a Tim the Toolman? If so, I understand, my wife says I am to!

Kevin

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Sat. Nov. 17, 2012 3:45 pm

KLook wrote:I am curious as to why you feel the need to have a fan? The air will be pulled from the easiest path naturally. Kevin

That's true, .. it's pulled from wherever. That means, maybe a crack by the window, you're sitting in front of, or around the door, etc.. Like I said, "it seemed to rather come from elsewhere, rather than down the 2" pipe, I had installed". Rather than coming in through all of the other cracks and crevices, and traveling though the house to get to the stove, hopefully now, the fan and pipe will do most of the job.

Dallas · Post by **Dallas** » Sun. Nov. 18, 2012 6:00 pm

KLook wrote:I am curious as to why you feel the need to have a fan? Kevin

KLook, I have to be honest with you, the 2" pipe, which I did have in place, probably would have worked better. But, I had some "filter foam" over the inlet, which I now believe, slowed air flow. Also, I think, not having the elbows on the ends of the stub, may have somewhat hindered the air from getting to the draft entrances.

I played with the stove somewhat today ... fan on or fan off didn't seem to make a difference, that I could easily detect. However, I'm thinking, that on those low pressure days, when you can hardly get a newspaper to burn, the fan may prove it's worth. The fire does seem to ignite, with a full load over the hot coals, more quickly and smoothly (for lack of a better word). I probably won't get a good feel for things, until it gets colder.

Really Temperamental Stove/Draft !!

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