Baro damper?

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:13 am

interesting have to find way to read pressure in chamber without opening door.
Also ran at .08 all night on medium. no co or sulfur but still much condensation in hopper.
plenty of heat.
Going to pull 4 feet of my chimney.

This chimney is 100% built to Alaska recommendations.
Wondering about bad gasket possibilty on stove.
Got 4 bags of Reading Anthracite today. Will start burning it tonite to see if any difference.

Since temp outdoors came up today my draft has dropped to .06 with same fire size and baro has now closed.

must check draft in combustion chamber. good ideal.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: rberq On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:34 pm

Pull 4 feet off your chimney? I always thought taller was better with chimneys.
rberq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 5:02 pm

my theory with the chimney being the 7 feet exposed past the old chimney could be losing temp fast at low fire rates and thus losing draft. on low fire my flu is 112.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY


Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 7:20 pm

Can you post photos of the chimney and the stove/pipes?
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:36 pm

pipes r posted will post chimney tomorrow.
Stove and draft are perfect today as long as I dont turn it down below medium low.
Coal hopper is still full of condensate.
Will put in some Reading Anthracite bagged rice tomorrow to see if indeed my coal is bad wet etc.
Chimney is not the issue. brand new 6" stainless from end to end Clears highest part of roof by 10'.
backfilled chimney with vermiculite. Burned 20 gauge stainless chimney flashing and wall plate on plasma cutter. Made custom storm collar and installed stock stainless topper. No water or air is getting through it. My draft last night was ove 1" with the baro held shut.on medium. The pipe through wall is slid inside another 8" piece of stainless. spaced with hollow stainless tubes and sealed with red fire stop.. There is no air getting through this chimney.

I think it is the coal as why is the hopper lid still soaked and coal in hopper and sides of hopper wet with condensate.???????????????

Will post chimney tomorrow and let u know how new coal goes. Stove will run out some time early tomorrow. I will then vacum and towel dry the entire stove and hopper refill and restart.

It cant be this hard.
I called my coal supplier and did not like their answers (or lack there of) to my questins losing faith in them.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:03 pm

Sorry, I forgot you already posted pics of the stove/pipes.
Try different coal, there is no logical reason why this problem is happening!
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:11 pm

your telling me its nuts
just checked hopper again used hand held co detector which will detect even the smallest amount of co none present.draft is .05/1/2" . But hopper and lid are soaked still.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:13 pm

Maybe one of us who is in your area can stop by and have a look see and bring a bucket of known good coal to try.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 9:33 pm

wouldnt hurt. 18062
I got 4 bags of Reading Anthracite today I will light up tomorrow night.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Razzler On: Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:13 pm

Coalishot, Maybe it would be a good idea to take the stoker out of the stove and tear it down clean it up and reassemble it again just to be sure it's all together right. It sounds like the hopper is getting to much heat from the stoker and it shouldn't be. I'm just guess, i don't know anything about stokers just my $.02 :eek2:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman SF 250

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:02 pm

Here is chimney. Also just restarted with different coal. Will post a results. Will say this new bagged coal is very wet. Much wetter than old coal if old coal was wet at all.
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PostBy: coalishot On: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:03 pm

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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:04 pm

height tightness insulation size cleanliness are all non-possibilities.
Also at warmest part of day today on medium low my draft went down to .02.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: rberq On: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:13 pm

A picture is worth a thousand words. Now I see why you want to take 4 feet off the top. Is that pipe above the cinder blocks un-insulated ?
rberq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
Coal Size/Type: Nut -- Kimmel/Blaschak/Reading
Other Heating: Oil hot water radiators, propane

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: coalishot On: Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:17 pm

Yes,
Thats y I think I might pull off 4 feet and still be well within code. It doesnt like drafting on low settings in warmer weather. Give me gas/or oil thats easy.
coalishot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: ALASKA
Stove/Furnace Model: LIBERTY