Baro damper?

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 2:04 pm

Like I said guys. If ya need it, use it. I just get a lil miffed when I read that ya can't run your stove properly without one. KC, is that your only heat source using only 20 lbs a day?????
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: warminmn On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 5:38 pm

joeq wrote:Warmin, are you saying, even with the baro door wide open, your chimney is still drafting -.04?! That must be one hell of a draw.


No, not quite. They will run steady at .04 when the knob on the baro says they should be on .02. But I did post a pic of my manometer last winter with my baro wide open, the MPD closed, and the mano was at about 1. not .01, not .1, but 1. I do have real good draft in both my chimneys.

Fred, i think the stoves with auto air intakes like the Hitzers and a lot of others can be run without baro's a lot easier. Its harder with some stoves that dont have the auto intakes. Ive got 2 stoves now without auto intakes and they will both overfire without a baro, even with MPD closed all the way. I suppose i could put 2 MPD's on them but I dont want to. My efel didnt need a baro and it had the auto intake as it closed when it got hot. I have a real strong draft though, stronger than most here do. Move my stoves to another chimney and the results would likely be different. They are a gadget that I'd rather not need to use. The model stove you have is an incredibly user friendly sounding stove from what all the users say about them.
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:07 pm

warminmn wrote:Fred, i think the stoves with auto air intakes like the Hitzers and a lot of others can be run without baro's a lot easier. Its harder with some stoves that dont have the auto intakes.
Right, his regulator is on the other end and is based off his stove temp.. ;)
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: joeq On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:27 pm

So is my Surdiac. It has auto intake, which is based off my stove temp, but benefits greatly with the baro.
joeq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
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Stove/Furnace Model: oil fired

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:41 pm

joeq wrote:So is my Surdiac. It has auto intake, which is based off my stove temp, but benefits greatly with the baro.

Yes I agree, having a baro with an auto intake seems would be more stable in my mind..
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Awesome Size

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: KingCoal918 On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:48 pm

freetown fred wrote:Like I said guys. If ya need it, use it. I just get a lil miffed when I read that ya can't run your stove properly without one. KC, is that your only heat source using only 20 lbs a day?????


That's in my shop. House is heated with oil. At some point we may supplement in the house with a stove.
KingCoal918
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Coal Cooker Model 88
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:57 pm

Nice KC. Thanx for the comeback.
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:25 pm

KingCoal918 wrote:House is heated with oil. At some point we may supplement in the house with a stove.
I really think you should.. ;)
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Overmodified/Bored out Clayton 1537
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: joeq On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 8:29 pm

Works for me. Oil "hardly" ever runs. And you know prices will go back up, where they were.
joeq
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: G111, Southard Robertson
Stove/Furnace Make: Thermopride
Stove/Furnace Model: oil fired

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: KingCoal918 On: Sat Jan 10, 2015 9:38 pm

having a stove is like having a kid, or a dog. takes attention day in day out or it dies.
since we don't have a kid, or dog, one mouth to feed in the shop may be it for me. . .
KingCoal918
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane Coal Cooker Model 88
Coal Size/Type: stove and nut

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: oliver power On: Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:33 am

I'm assuming when installing / setting up a barometric damper, you'd do it on a calm day. Or does that not matter?
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:51 am

oliver power wrote:I'm assuming when installing / setting up a barometric damper, you'd do it on a calm day. Or does that not matter?

That would certainly be the best way. If i was to set mine on a windy day here,it would not operate at all on normal days with a slight breeze.
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:48 am

oliver power wrote:I'm assuming when installing / setting up a barometric damper, you'd do it on a calm day. Or does that not matter?

With out starting a lengthy debate, if the baro is set with a manometer in place the outside conditions shouldn't cause any discourse. just my 2 cents.
michaelanthony
 
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Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:47 am

True,but how would you get it set when our wind gusts send the meter sky high every 3 seconds,much easier on a milder breeze day.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
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Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: Baro damper?

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:00 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:True,but how would you get it set when our wind gusts send the meter sky high every 3 seconds,much easier on a milder breeze day.

Good point, but I live next to a 5147 ft. tall mountain and the wind only slows down on leap year for a few seconds. :P
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
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