Keeping the stove burning all night

Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 4:36 pm

What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
Jtz622
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Variety no 118
Stove/Furnace Model: No 118

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:00 pm

Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks


You gotta fix that air leak, fast burn issue first. What size coal are you using again? Nut works really well for long burns.
Smokeyja
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:25 pm

Yeah I am using nut
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Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 6:27 pm

Jtz622 wrote:Yeah I am using nut


Are you filling the fire pot as high as you can go?
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Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood #6 baseheater
Coal Size/Type: Nut / Anthracite

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 7:25 pm

Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks


Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:08 pm

SteveZee wrote:
Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks


Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.
SteveZee wrote:
Jtz622 wrote:What would be the best way to keep a potbelly stove burning all night?
I have all the drafts shut off and I get about a 90% burn rate, the stove is always cold about 9am.
Any suggestions?
Thanks


Sorry but pot belly stoves were never meant to be 24/7 burners. They were made to heat up fast and hot but not long and slow.


What about them makes them cool down faster than other stoves? Is it the design or airflow or something?
Jtz622
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Variety no 118
Stove/Furnace Model: No 118

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:22 pm

Pot belly stoves are not air tight. You can close all the doors and sliding air intakes and air leaks around everything. For home heating you need an airtight coal stove. The doors will have gaskets and the air intake ports will seal tight enough to put the fire out if closed all the way. Your potbelly can probably not be sealed tight enough to get long slow controlled burns. I think someone here tried to seal a potbelly once. Hopefully he will chime in and tell us the results.

A good used modern air tight coal stove would be a much better avenue to pursue. They sometimes go very cheap if they are rusty and need a minor repair. :)
grizzly2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 - 95
Coal Size/Type: pea and nut/ anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #3 wood stove in garage. Oil backup in house. Electric backup in house.

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:28 pm

I better add lest Will and a few others get me excommunicated, There are excellent old stoves. They are very efficient and very high qualtiy and many of them are beautiful works of art. However they are very expensive to buy. :secret:
grizzly2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 - 95
Coal Size/Type: pea and nut/ anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #3 wood stove in garage. Oil backup in house. Electric backup in house.

Suggestions on sealing a potbelly?

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:10 pm

So have all the major seams sealed up, but to much air is still getting in for the fire to burn overnight. Anyone have any way to seal the mating places of the doors and the cooktop so I can control the fire better? Mainly looking for longer burn times at lower temp.
Thanks
Jtz622
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Variety no 118
Stove/Furnace Model: No 118

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:15 pm

Better yet...
The stove you have is unable to properly regulate the combustion air...
The fuel burns too quickly...
Resulting in a cold stove due to lack of unburned fuel...
'Potbelly Stove' is not in the same league as the 'baseburners'...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Suggestions on sealing a potbelly?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:18 pm

Post a few pics of your stove...
Put a bright, battery powered lantern inside the stove...
Darken the room...
Close it up and look for the light...
That is where you are leaking air...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Suggestions on sealing a potbelly?

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:56 pm

That's actually a good idea! Thanks
But what should I use to seal the leaks with? Furnace cement, silicon glue or Fiberglas rope?
Jtz622
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Variety no 118
Stove/Furnace Model: No 118

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: Jtz622 On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:59 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:Better yet...
The stove you have is unable to properly regulate the combustion air...
The fuel burns too quickly...
Resulting in a cold stove due to lack of unburned fuel...
'Potbelly Stove' is not in the same league as the 'baseburners'...


The thing is, I have a potbelly, not a baseburner, there has to be a way to make it more efficient. I know I am not going to get nearly as good results as a baseburner, but I can defenatly improve my potbelly.
Jtz622
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Variety no 118
Stove/Furnace Model: No 118

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:12 pm

Sometimes it is better to cut your losses and move on...
Silk purse out of a pigs ear comes to mind...
You are trying to make your stove something it was never meant to be...
Plent of 'airtight' stoves out there looking for a good home...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Keeping the stove burning all night

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:20 pm

Jtz622 wrote:The thing is, I have a potbelly, not a baseburner, there has to be a way to make it more efficient. I know I am not going to get nearly as good results as a baseburner, but I can defenatly improve my potbelly.

Seal the ash pit door as I gave you directions to do.
franco b
 
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