Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: mainecoalguy On: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:00 pm

Hmmmm.I've had the slide brick closed.....will try with open thanks....mark
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:22 pm

So c'mon Mark

Status check time ..........



Rick
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: mainecoalguy On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:25 pm

Hey there....I found the cowboy lump charcoal today..but got busy so no attempted launches...lol...will try tomorrow...someone else said try a high temp paint stripper gun...ever try that?
Will get back tp you tomorroow...also have the local coal dealer coming out sat if no luck...mark
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: coal bob On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:37 pm

Rick 386 wrote:Damn.

You almost had it there. Move those sticks closer to the hopper. The upper one about 1 inch closer to the hopper. Then leave only about 2-3 inches for the bottom 1. Try the lighter soaked charcoal between the 2 sticks. Light it close the door and turn on the combustion blower. Within a minute the sparks should be flying. As soon as you get that red showing, put a little coal by hand on top of the red charcoal. Just barely cover the red. Close door and watch. As soon as you see the red coming up through the coal, add a little bit more.

You were so so close I almost felt the warmth down here !!!!!!!

Check your PM's.



Rick

Im glad i got a hand fire lot easyer to light than those stokers,kinda like a skidoo compared to a polaris :lol: couldn't resist ;)
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: Pocono Pete On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:52 pm

Mark, in case you could not find the thread on lighting coal this is basically what was said. " Hot air paint peeling gun ( looks like girls hair dryer) set on high 1000 degrees. Point the tip of gun at a small pile of coal (baseball size) in the middle of burn grate just behind combustion air holes. Hold tip of gun very close to coal about 1/8 inch away. Hold gun there until coal is white hot, once you think the coal is burning plug in the stove". Like I said I still use mice to start my channing iii but I did hit a pile of rice coal with the gun and it did seems to catch on fire right away. Good luck Pete. This was originally posted by MPeck, Nov. 2010. He says it should only take about 10 minutes.
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit GOT IT GOING

PostBy: mainecoalguy On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:44 pm

Thanks to all.....here's a pic ....update later..I'm now mesmerized
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:21 pm

Mark,

Congrads........ Welcome to the warm side.




Rick
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: Pacowy On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:22 pm

Once the fire is started you can close the slide brick to get more heat out of the stove.

Mike
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit GOT IT LIT FOLLOWUP

PostBy: mainecoalguy On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:02 pm

Much thanks to rick and others.trick was the cowboy lump charcoal....
Kept all rice coal off grate... made dam at bottom of grate to keep charcoal on grate,, shredded paper below the cowboy, plus some pine needles, single layer of cowboy, mostly smaller pieces no big pieices...and toward upper part of grate but over air holes......then lit with match then comb fan turned on.....added more cowboy as it got going....then slowly added rice coal a spoonful spread out over the charcoal thrn more charcoal...thrn more rice....did this for a good ten fifteen minutrs.after seeing some blue flames holding strong....then turned rheostat from min to around three.....mark......then just watched it....
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: ceccil On: Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:51 am

Great to see you have it burning now. It gets easier each time.

mainecoalguy wrote:made dam at bottom of grate to keep charcoal on grate


Thats the one thing I really like about the Keystoker. It has the flat grate stoker so coal doesn't fall off. I have a friend that has the old style slant grate and he really likes the newer design of the flat. He says when he's burning red ash and it's really cranking the ash can fuse and he has had it pull about half the fire right off the grate when it dropped into the ash pan. Even on my flat grate its funny to see the ash fused and sticking out three inches or so before it drops off.

Anyway, good luck and stay warm!
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: no74falcon On: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:20 am

I'm sorry I haven't been paying attention to this more. When I was using my LL Pioneer, I started out using a scrap piece of stove pipe cut into a "U" like Bratkinson had described but it was kind of a pain looking for my "U" when I needed it so cutting a piece of scrap wood to wedge between the sides of the grate worked out better. It was sort of like what Rick described but a little different. I just broke up some Matchlight charcoal and placed it behind the dam, over the holes in the grate, then get the charcoal going good with a propane torch, then turn on the combustion fan, start sprinkling a little coal on the charcoal, crank up the feeder, and it was usually fine. The wooden dam would burn away and no picking the metal "U" out of the ashes.

We bought our Channing 3 very slightly used from a friend (he and his wife didn't like burning coal after 3 months for some reason) and he gave me a few of the "mice" with the stove. As I didn't have any scraps of wood to make a dam with, I did have a scrap of chimeny pipe so I went back to that for my first light of the stove. I put in the "U", put one of the mice behind it, buried it with coal and made sure there was coal behind it coming from the hopper, lit the fuse, quickly closed the door, waited for the mouse to light, then turned on the combustion fan and feeder, and it was going. Those little mice are the cat's ass as far as I'm concerned. As long as you can find them, they are the easiest thing I have found.
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:24 am

I've been a cowboy coal user as well. With the temp fluctuations this year I have lit the mag stoker about 6-7 times.

Same procedure as you described, clear about 3/4 of the grates toward the back of coal ash, put small pieces of cowboy coal on the grates with a couple big pieces at the end as a dam. put a layer of rice coal at the very back end of the grate behind the cowboy coal. Close combustion door and turn on combustion blower for about 10 seconds to blow out any ash BEFORE trying to light it with the propane torch so I don't get a snootful of fly ash (only took one time to learn that! :roll: ) Keep feed motor and distribution fan off at this point.

Turn off combustion fan, open door, apply propane torch to cowboy coal, get some red edges on the cowboy coal (you may need combustion fan on while applying propane torch), turn on combustion fan if not already & close door, watch cowboy coal get going, after about 2 minutes get a scoop of rice coal, turn off combustion fan then open door and sprinkle rice coal over cowboy coal, close door and turn combustion fan back on. watch rice coal catch after about two minutes turn on feed motor and distribution fan. Hands off now and about 10 minutes later we are in full throttle!!!

There have been enough posted questions about the procedure this fall that I'll have to get the new video camera out and tape it the next time I start up the stoker out in the workshop since it's cold enough here now that I don't believe I'll be shutting down the basement one until spring.
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: gjambor On: Mon Mar 05, 2012 12:06 pm

Hi, I went through the same problems you were having. I found the best and easiest way to light my Channing III . Mine uses a 20' chimney. I make sure the fire grate is clean, then pull some fresh coal onto the grate ,enough to cover the grate.
I then make a small scrap wood fire in one of my ash bins (I have 2). I keep the glass door closed and leave the bottom door open a crack to feed air to the fire. I also put tin foil on my Barometric damper to establish all the draft going thru the stove. When the wood fire is mostly coals, I put 5 MATCHLIGHT CHARCOAL BRIQUETTES , which I previously broke up into about 4 pieces each onto the grate as far back as I can and light them. Leave the ash door cracked to help the charcoal burn. After about 10-15 minutes the charcoal is mostly grey and ready. I poor enough coal (from a small coffee can) onto the charcoal , enough to cover them. shut the stove tight and plug it in set to 2 . About 40 minutes later the fire is well establishedI, I set my temp higher and remove the foil from the baro.
I break my briquettes with my Channel lock pliers into a small coffee can to be ready to pour them onto the bed of fresh coal. Today, this whole process took me 1 hour and 20 minutes I live in Southern NJ and have a heat pump as my primary source of heat. When overnight temps are forecast to be in the 20s or below , I fire up the Alaska . My heat pump will heat the house even then , but it runs much more. Kind of like a heat wave in the summer.
I am now an expert fire starter. Knowing a good way makes it a pleasure to do.
God Bless, George
P.S. I noticed that using my ash bin for my wood fire made it warp a little. You might consider using something else for the wood fire. I do not like having a pile of wood ashes all over the inside of the stove.
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit

PostBy: Anthracitemight On: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:44 pm

I have an Alaska Kodiak 2. I find when using those paper charcoal bags, unless I have hot coals formed, turning the combustion fan on kills the burn. I have mine power vented, and the draft alone was enough to those burning. I would put some nice scrap hardwood over that and get that burning. Once you have some nice coals, put a little anthracite on top. Once they start to glow, start the combustion fan, adding a little more coal over time. Then hit the feed

I prefer to use coal mice, though. They light it near instantly
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Re: Alaskan CHANNING 3 cant get lit GOT IT GOING

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:54 pm

mainecoalguy wrote:Thanks to all.....here's a pic ....update later..I'm now mesmerized


Good work ... what was your secret? Was it putting cats into the mix?
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