SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:36 pm

Our 4th year heating w/ Hyfire II. Quit feeding on us out of the blue tonight - fire's out :( . The Mr's a great guy, but not so mechanically inclined so this is in my hands. I'm slightly more competent in this area (just slightly). This happened once before a few years ago and all I had to do was clean out some ash that had built up in the pipe, increased the power vent speed a little, reset that little box on the lower right side of the stove (that senses gas build up inside of it and automatically shuts down the feed) and problem was solved. Not so this time. Went through the drill and no feed - no nothing. Checked all connections, fuse looks good. Coaltrol when going through test mode produces nil from the stove ( you can hear the clicking as it switches from test to test, but no go w/ the stove - not even the blowers). Red button is lit on the back of the stove so there is juice going to it. At first the blower ran for a few seconds, but then quit on me altogether. No grinding noises etc or anything unusual prior to it shutting off. Anyone have suggestions for a soon to be shivering damsel in distress? Or does anyone know of anyone in the Stroudsburg/Mt Pocono area who could service it? Help! Will be digging out the kerosine heaters soon!
weaser51
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:34 pm

Hi Weaser51, welcome to the forum!! Sorry to hear that your LL is acting up. I am not familiar with the controls on that stove, but I am positive someone will be along shortly with some suggestions to narrow it down and maybe even get you back up and running. Hang in there!
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Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:45 pm

Hello, I have a hyfire 11 that just went out on me the other morning. Turned out to be the feeder motor was runing but something in the little gearbox messed up. I just switched to the other burner till i order a new part. Did you have both burners burning or just the one ? I know nothing about the powervent but will any of your blowers run on the stove ? My blowers would still run and even the coal feeder motor but it was not pushing the carpet to feed any coal. i see you say that the blower ran for a few seconds but than quit, almost makes me seem to think it has something to do with the powervent. Flyer 5 who is co- owner of Leisure Stoves gets on here quite abit, hopefully he will chime in, if not you could call Leisure Line and ask to talk to Dave or Matthew,, i'am sure they can give you some answers.
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Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:13 pm

You say also you have the coal-trol on your stove ?
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Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:32 pm

Yes, the CoalTrol thermostat. I always have the power from the thermostat box (on the back of the hopper) plugged into the WMO safety switch (the sensor that detects gas build up w/in the stove) and the WMO plugged into the outlet. After trying everything else tonight, I plugged the thermostat box directly to the power source, bypassing the WMO safety box (thinking maybe that might be faulty?), but still nothing. The power vent was functioning normal (it's plugged into its own outlet). I only had 1 feeder running (that's the frugal PA Dutch in me - wear a sweater, save on coal) - that's all I usually run unless it's ungodly cold and I find the stove feeding consistently at a high rate. But I couldn't get anything running tonight - not the blowers, nor the stokers. I'm wondering if the problem is in the thermostat box itself.
weaser51
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:41 pm

Go to the coal-trol section of this forum and read under " COAL-TROL SHUTS OFF " See if you get any pointers from that thread
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Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:42 pm

Thanks - I'll give it a try.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:52 pm

Please keep in mind that if the WMO was tripped out it did so for a reason,,, you have CO detectors in the house?
theo
 
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Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:44 pm

Yup, I've got CO detectors on every floor of the house. I read through the CoalTrol thread you suggested (good idea) and went back down to the basement to fiddle around and try to pin point the problem more specifically, thinking it might be the thermostat box itself. Long story short, I've got 1 feeder running again (the other one not, but that's a problem for another day). I just plugged everything back in to start testing things again and at first the stoker wasn't working in the test mode, but after a few cycles it kicked in and I've got a fire burning again -for the time being (we'll see what the morning brings). I don't know how a problem w/ the stoker would account for no blowers or fans running before though. Wonder if something overheated and shut the unit down. Thanks for your guidance and suggestions - God bless you all - this forum is a wealth of help, information, and knowledge. Keep your fingers crossed.
weaser51
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:42 am

Out again. Light on thermometer box stays lit, so it's getting power. But everything on the stove goes down - stoker, blowers, fans. Wonder if there's a loose connection from the thermostat box to the stove itself.
weaser51
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:24 am

Try giving Dave a call at Leisure Line,,, I know you are going to get it going ! Your are doing a fantastic job so far !
theo
 
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Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: WNY On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:31 am

Also, contact COALTROL (Neil or Paul), they can walk you thru everything on the box and determine if it's a box problem. could be a intermittent problem with the box itself. Maybe something came loose or a bad solder joint on the circuit board, etc.....
WNY
 
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Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: weaser51 On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:15 pm

Thanks everyone for the help. Good to know this information is just a forum post or phone call away. It's amazing what you can learn just by contacting the right people. Had the switch and the fuse holder changed to the more current version (Thanks Dave for helping me out on this almost holiday weekend). :roll: Have had the stove running for a few hours now and so far, so good. It even seems as if it's more responsive to the CoalTrol settings - adjusting feed more accurately and promptly - but that could be my big old imagination too. I'm pleased to say the Leisure Line is just as customer friendly and helpful as ever. Good to know there are still people and businesses like that around nowadays
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Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire II

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: theo On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:44 pm

Glad to hear this! Will keep the finger's crossed that you solved the problem. We all learn something from situations like this,,,, and Dave at Leisure Line will take the time to try and get you up and runing again! Good thing you dont have a Harman stove ,,,, try calling their factory :(
theo
 
Stove/Furnace Make: LL
Stove/Furnace Model: Hyfire 2

Re: SOS - Hyfire Quit w/ cold weather coming - any suggestions?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:28 pm

weaser51 wrote:Thanks everyone for the help. Good to know this information is just a forum post or phone call away. It's amazing what you can learn just by contacting the right people. Had the switch and the fuse holder changed to the more current version (Thanks Dave for helping me out on this almost holiday weekend). :roll: Have had the stove running for a few hours now and so far, so good. It even seems as if it's more responsive to the CoalTrol settings - adjusting feed more accurately and promptly - but that could be my big old imagination too. I'm pleased to say the Leisure Line is just as customer friendly and helpful as ever. Good to know there are still people and businesses like that around nowadays



It was very nice to meet you . I am pretty confident it was the fuse holder. But please keep me updated if the the issue arises again. Thanks, Dave
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