Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:48 pm

Keith,

The back pipe damper is the equivalent of your baseheater switch. It turns the exhaust down and up the other side of the back pipe versus straight out (direct). The check damper is altogether different and on my stove opens vents in the back of the ash pit. This allows air to bypass the coal bed and thus run lower temps, or on a windy day acts like a built in baro damper.
On your baseheater, since that area is already being used for circulation, they put the check damper on the outside of the stove on that cast elbow that the stove pipe connects too.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:50 pm

Echos, Tim's stove is a Glenwood Oak with an indirect back pipe. The damper he is refering to is a damper that is similiar to the damper that changes your stove from direct draft to base burner mode. These stoves do not have check dampers as a rule although I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't make some of them that had a check damper. It's hard to say if what works for one person may work for another since every chimney and installation is different. Your chimney draft may be different than his or mine, but; keep experimenting and you will find out what works best in any given weather condition. It takes time and observation.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:54 pm

Tim, nice to see you'r still happy with the stove.
I apologize for my English but the part of your post about the shaking...method is not clear for me. Do you mean you hurt the shaking grate's ends with the handle????
Thanks
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:02 pm

William, when opening a check damper, does it mean we send more heat in the flue pipe? I know it acts very well to lower a fire output but I was asking that question in my head.
Now on my stove I only have to open just a little the check damper when wanting to slow down the fire but as the time goes by I use it less often now.
Thanks
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: SteveZee On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:10 pm

nortcan wrote:William, when opening a check damper, does it mean we send more heat in the flue pipe? I know it acts very well to lower a fire output but I was asking that question in my head.
Now on my stove I only have to open just a little the check damper when wanting to slow down the fire but as the time goes by I use it less often now.
Thanks


Maybe a little Pierre, but my thoughts are that it's more like a bi-pass. I think it's like a barometric damper. It lets room air that would have passed through the coal bed, just pass through and out, thus cutting the amount of air through the coal. Yes, a little heated room air is going out but I would think it's not much.

Also, Tim's post about the shaking, I think he's saying that he uses the shaker handle end like a poker to tap down the coal bed before shaking again.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: echos67 On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:16 pm

Steve and William, thanks alot for clearing that up for me, it makes even more sense now. It sure is nice to have people like yourselves with expeience helping someone like myself without any. I love this antique stove more and more every cold winters day :up: .

Nortican-Pierre :gee:
Enjoy the bonus $ my friend, you deserve it. I plan to do alot more Nortications as soon as my stove is shut down again.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: david78 On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:26 pm

nortcan wrote:
david78 wrote:Sounds like a chilly day in Maine!
My stove has a 16' firepot, direct draft, triangular grates. There's a Splendid Oak thread on here of what I did to restore it. I haven't used the Harmon yet. I bought it for an addition I'm building and just haven't need it yet.


David, 16" fire pot, with or without a liner?
How deep is the fire pot?
What is the lowest temp. you can idle the stove?
Thanks


It was 16" before I put the refractory in it, so more like 15" now. It's 13" deep. About 150F at the top of the barrel, though I usually run it around 200-250
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 8:24 pm

echos67 wrote:Steve and William, thanks alot for clearing that up for me, it makes even more sense now. It sure is nice to have people like yourselves with expeience helping someone like myself without any. I love this antique stove more and more every cold winters day :up: .

Nortican-Pierre :gee:
Enjoy the bonus $ my friend, you deserve it. I plan to do alot more Nortications as soon as my stove is shut down again.


What do you plan to do? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: echos67 On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:44 pm

wsherrick wrote:
echos67 wrote:Steve and William, thanks alot for clearing that up for me, it makes even more sense now. It sure is nice to have people like yourselves with expeience helping someone like myself without any. I love this antique stove more and more every cold winters day :up: .

Nortican-Pierre :gee:
Enjoy the bonus $ my friend, you deserve it. I plan to do alot more Nortications as soon as my stove is shut down again.


What do you plan to do? Inquiring minds want to know.


No Nortications that will alter the stove in a way it can not be brought back to original, this is very important that no stoves are harmed in the process.

The main thing I want to try is using small rope and flat style gaskets to make the seals throughout the entire stove. By doing this I will hopefully get more longevity between re-sealings that make the stove air-tight. When I sealed the base this winter before hooking it up I used a cheaper furnace cement on the base, I can see pieces already flaking and seperating and it would not take much to scrape them off. I used high temp rtv on the doors and they became chalky so I have already resealed these again once last week when the stove was down due to the warmer temps.

Update on the settings posted earlier:
The stove temp reached 350* after an hour and a half, my thermometer is on the upper part of the barrel.
I closed the secondary and opened the mpd to around 160* (180 is closed) and the stove is rolling at 450* feels great inside at 72* when outside the wind is blowing and temps in lower 30's.
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: FarmKid On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:18 pm

I have been very happy with my antique stove (Germer 16" Radiant Home). I've been firing it every night I'm home. Fired wood up until recently when the cold weather hit this week. Find it very relaxing as a hobby and sometimes we cook s'mores for the grandchildren when they stay overnight. :D
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:46 pm

SteveZee wrote:
nortcan wrote:William, when opening a check damper, does it mean we send more heat in the flue pipe? I know it acts very well to lower a fire output but I was asking that question in my head.
Now on my stove I only have to open just a little the check damper when wanting to slow down the fire but as the time goes by I use it less often now.
Thanks


Maybe a little Pierre, but my thoughts are that it's more like a bi-pass. I think it's like a barometric damper. It lets room air that would have passed through the coal bed, just pass through and out, thus cutting the amount of air through the coal. Yes, a little heated room air is going out but I would think it's not much.

Also, Tim's post about the shaking, I think he's saying that he uses the shaker handle end like a poker to tap down the coal bed before shaking again.



Good explanations Steve. The room air thoughts make sense.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:53 pm

echos, do you mean you will tear all the stove apart and seal it with rope gaskets?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:00 pm

David, your liner seems very thin 16" to 15" = about 1/2". Does it still intact from the heat? Mine is 1.25", maybe thinner would have been good?
Amazing to be able to control a so big stove that way. Very good.
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Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:05 pm

FarmKid wrote:I have been very happy with my antique stove (Germer 16" Radiant Home). I've been firing it every night I'm home. Fired wood up until recently when the cold weather hit this week. Find it very relaxing as a hobby and sometimes we cook s'mores for the grandchildren when they stay overnight. :D


Should be a super experience for the grandchildren to see an antique stove making you so happy. Cooking on it should also be a great surprise too for them.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
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Re: Do you like your ANTIQUE stove?

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:11 am

Hey you base heater/burner guys- how much coal, lb wise, does your fire pots hold?
The Warm Morning I have holds 40lbs of coal and needs to be attended to no longer than every 12 hours if filled to the brim with 40lbs other wise it's bye bye fire in the morning. I'm getting tired of dumping the stove and starting over at least once a week. Just dreaming of what I can expect out of the base heater when I get one.
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