Capecoaler, thanks for the location of the search box and yes I did know it was there as I have used it ALOT over the past year. Could be why I have such a low post count. I don't like asking questions and I can most of the time find it for myself. What I did ask was in my last post was, where were the guys that buy the SWG oil buying it from? Looking for input on a decent place to do business with on the internet for stove stuff when needed. I do not mind buying the oil instead of a motor. I was going to use the mobil 1 0-5 oil the book from LL said was ok to use, but was unable to find it in town. I also checked in two stove shops in town for the SWG oil and they did not have it. Yes, I found the patriot supply web site, thanks for your help.