More coal plants in trouble in New york

More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: Dirty Steve On: Wed Jan 04, 2012 5:31 pm

AES Energy company has filed for Bankruptcy as of 12/30/11. They operate two coal fired electric generation plants in NY- AES Somerset (Southern Tier) and AES Cayuga (Miliken Stantion) Lansing, NY. I know AES Cayuga was off line but had to refire to keep plant warm due to the coal booiler was there only source of heat.
http://www.theithacajournal.com/article ... 0354/1124/

This makes for interesting readings:

http://southof5and20.blogspot.com/
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: scotty On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:39 am

they also own a plant in Dresdon outside of Penn Yan they they closed last year, I heard the railroad comp. was charging the lansing plant mega $$$$$$ to haul coal because its the only thing the tracks are used for ????????????????
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:54 am

Let's see how good Cuomo really is & hopefully do some intervening.
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:14 am

There ain't nothing that can be done, read up on that AES Energy, only been in existence since 1981& already one of the largest GLOBAL Energy Corps. they are into every source of power, gobble up plants like penny candy get what they can then shut them down. I would look for the ones near Dayton to close next, that area was another of their acquisitions.
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:19 am

I never get into that "ain't nothing can be done" mode, until someone actually tries. And I try not to get into that negativity of the past. Today is today & by God, I'm going to roll with it. ;)
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:53 am

I hear you Fred but when you do the research it goes back a good bit, the two founders helped write some of the energy regulations so therefore knew a bit of insider info.. Don't know where two guys that were Gov. employees are able to get loans to buy producers but they did, all done with paperwork now I think it said they are in 28 countries & are really big on renewable sources, been staging things up since the Nixon & Carter eras, maybe before that. Got to keep the investors fat & happy.
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: scotty On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:01 am

Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 9:54 am
Let's see how good Cuomo really is & hopefully do some intervening.

really ????? that's the dumbest post ever
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:06 am

That's only because you haven't read some of my other posts. REALLY :clap: toothy ya want to go into more detail, or is that all you got? ;)
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:26 am

For my money the ol'fart in Freetown has his brain in overdrive, it must be the cold weather. Fred you overwhelm the plethora of dumb posts by the left by this one:

Today is today & by God, I'm going to roll with it.


Never heard that one - genius.
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:48 am

Come on neighbor, you of all people should know how depthy us old farmers can get. ;) But I do love people that run on the I heards,I read somewhere's--way too intense for this old mind. :)
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:11 am

I was bad and took my response to a different posting. It's the one with that Happy Ending Massage Lover Al Gore paddling around in it. I thought I was referencing one of Scotty's previous post quotes and tying it over to this topic. Well,I failed....miserably....like everything else I've ever done...Horribly....Dammit,these failures must be the true sign that I'm a Neo-Conservative with a Centrist Twist...Crap! :blowup:
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:40 am

My good friend, me thinks you need to go out & buy yourself a pack of cigs. :clap: toothy
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:10 pm

I can't do that,as it would only anger Al and Barack....(Sigh and Shoulder Shrug)..............Emphysema Rules ! :smoke:
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Re: More coal plants in trouble in New york

PostBy: baddawg On: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:11 am

scotty wrote:they also own a plant in Dresdon outside of Penn Yan they they closed last year, I heard the railroad comp. was charging the lansing plant mega $$$$$$ to haul coal because its the only thing the tracks are used for ????????????????


While I don't know how much NS railroad charges AES Cayuga, they also service the Cargill plant in Lansing. My guess would be that Cargill would be the loser if the AES plant shuts down do to the high cost of running the train to one plant, I could be wrong as it is not the same train or crews that service both plants. Coal trains were always called from the "extra" list of workers as they were not a reg.train, Demand for coal dictates how many trains run up there. Salt train was a daily train with the same crew for the most part.

As a side note, NS has spent millions of dollars in the last few years replacing bridges and upgrading the Ithaca secondary track. I don't think it is the railroad running the power plants out of business, I would look more at government regs. and plant (owner) managment.
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