Coffee, anyone?

Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:35 pm

Going back to the Blowtorches thread and Wood 'n Coal's picture of his C30 Sunbeam, here are is my little collection of vacuum coffee makers.
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1950's Vaculator with heating base
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Sunbeam C30 with cloth filter
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Cona "D", made in Gr. Britain. Best coffee I've ever had.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Wed Nov 14, 2007 2:46 pm

And last but not least....
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Bodum electric Santos
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With stand for funnel on base unit. Cord extends/retracts into base.
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I also had a Yama (Japanese) stovetop vacuum pot, 4 cup size, that I broke the lower globe years ago after a lot of use. For the longest time, they were unavailable in the USA, but now I just saw that a new version, very similar to the old, is available again. Highly recommended, and inexpensive. http://www.sweetmarias.com/index.php stocks the Yama as well as all the other coffee paraphernaila any serious coffee geek would want.

Now, if I could just figure out how to use the Keystoker to roast my coffee beans.....

Chris
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:58 pm

Your collection is very nice, the vacuum pots make the best coffee because they only boil the water before it hits the coffee grounds. A perk coffee maker boils the water continuously to keep percolating, resulting in poor quality coffee. I guess the industry thought they had it figured out with the advent of the drip machine (i.e. "Mr, Coffee") but I disagree.
I guess the vacuum pots were outdated and too much trouble, Sunbeam stopped making them in the mid 1950's in favor of an electric percolator (yuk!).

My parents had a C30, the picture I posted is actually the top half and lid from theirs with a different bottom. Their's had the cloth filter, I have the fine screen filter in it now. I wore out the last cloth filter years ago. I began using it as a teenager (it was retired to the attic) and continue to use it to this day. I've bought several on eBay, the gasket on the bottom of the top half fails. I lube it with silicone grease about once a month.

I notice you have the Bakelite lid, I have one of them also, but I'm using the chrome lid right now.

There was a matching tray with cream and sugar containers that looked like miniature C30's available as well.

I noticed the Vaculator, very nice as well.

Since we collect everything, we do have a collection of perk stovetop pots as well.

I also have a fondness for Espresso (being part Italian) and I drink my coffee black. No "Latte Frappochino Grande Whatever The Heck It Is With Steamed Milk And A Pound Of Sugar" for me!
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Greyhound On: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:02 am

I use a Chemex and have for many years. It's a little more manual labor in hand pouring over the grounds, but I think it makes excellent coffee. I recently purchased a replacement from that same sweet maria's site you mentioned. Basically just an hourglass shaped piece of glass, but was significant enough to warrant a place in the Museum of Modern Art in NY.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:03 am

Chemex are awesome! Best drip coffee you can make. Something about them works far better than the plastic filter top manual pour-over drip coffee makers like the Melitta.

The key to a Chemex as well as a vacuum coffee maker is the brew temp is kept around 195F, which is optimum. Most electric drip makers barely can hit 185F on a good day, usually less, and as stated previously, percolators boil the coffee over and over, which is nasty.

OTOH, for espresso, the optimum brew temp. is 203.5 (I'm not kidding - .5 deg. can make a difference), and brew pressure is 9 bar (1 bar = 14.7psi). I'll save you all from the boring details, but suffice it to say that I roast my own coffee....... :crazy:
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:34 pm

I have the standard made in Italy espresso pot you screw together and heat on the stove. I'll be using it tomorrow.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:04 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:I have the standard made in Italy espresso pot you screw together and heat on the stove. I'll be using it tomorrow.


Oooh, a 'moka pot'. Those make a really nice cup of coffee. I have a little stainless steel Guido Bergna model, but it makes lousy coffee compared to the standard Bialetti aluminum pot. Don't know why, but I've never got a really good cup out of it, whereas a friend of mine with an aluminum pot makes good coffee with it no matter what we throw in it.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:38 pm

europachris wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:I have the standard made in Italy espresso pot you screw together and heat on the stove. I'll be using it tomorrow.


Oooh, a 'moka pot'. Those make a really nice cup of coffee. I have a little stainless steel Guido Bergna model, but it makes lousy coffee compared to the standard Bialetti aluminum pot. Don't know why, but I've never got a really good cup out of it, whereas a friend of mine with an aluminum pot makes good coffee with it no matter what we throw in it.


I really like that little pot, it does a fine job. My wife won't drink it, I usually can get my daughter to have some. Over the years, my wife has gotten used to my "strong" coffee, it's an acquired taste. I grew up on it, my Italian grandmother made strong coffee. My parents always drank hot tea (YUK!).

I've also made "regular" coffee in the C30 using espresso grind. Very good as well.
The only problem with the C-30 these days is some of the brands available in the stores tend to foam and then it overflows when sending the water up to the top half. I think this is because pre-ground coffee comes on only one grind, and this is too fine for the C-30. I've had the best results with Maxwell House & Chock Full O' Nuts. Chase and Sanborn tastes like battery acid. I usually don't go for the "fancy" brands.

I take a thermos with me during the day, fast food coffee is the worst, no matter what it says on the cup. I like Hazelnut from Dunkin' Doughnuts, but it's hit or miss, depends on how long the coffee has been on the warmer.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:25 am

Europachris, do you use the Sunbeam C-30?
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: e.alleg On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 12:47 am

I have a regular drip coffee maker. I do grind my own beans, mostly we drink Kona from Hawaii. My sister lives right where they grow the stuff. $20 a pound OUCH! but once you get hooked on really good coffee Maxwell House just isn't the same. Starbucks will do in a pinch.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:55 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:Europachris, do you use the Sunbeam C-30?


Yes, I do, but haven't for a while. I found, while it worked very well, always gave a metallic taste to the coffee that my glass pots (Cona, etc.) didn't. It also could have been the rather ancient cloth filter I was using adding some funkyness.

For the cloth filters, go to a fabric store and get 100% USA made (if you can find it) diaper cotton. Just cut to size, hem the edge, and voila!.

Chris
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:16 am

europachris wrote:... diaper cotton. Just cut to size, hem the edge, and voila!.


I think I see the reason for your funky taste, maybe that was re-used diaper cotton! :lol: :lol:
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: europachris On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:34 am

Matthaus wrote:I think I see the reason for your funky taste, maybe that was re-used diaper cotton! :lol: :lol:


Nah, that just adds body to the flavor - mocha..... :sick:
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:42 am

europachris wrote:
Matthaus wrote:I think I see the reason for your funky taste, maybe that was re-used diaper cotton! :lol: :lol:


Nah, that just adds body to the flavor - mocha..... :sick:


Now that the wave of nausea is subsiding...I'm fairly certain I have an extra filter set that uses the fine mesh screen instead of the cloth filter. I can send it to you if you want it. PM me. Might take me a few days to find it though.
The other important thing with the C-30 is the gasket that seals the top and bottom together, once the rubber becomes hard and starts to crack, it's over. I've gone through several, obviously they are not available anymore. I disassemble the top half every so often and "massage" the gasket with silicone grease. As I mentioned, I do use the pot everyday.
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Re: Coffee, anyone?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Dec 30, 2007 10:46 am

e.alleg wrote:I have a regular drip coffee maker. I do grind my own beans, mostly we drink Kona from Hawaii. My sister lives right where they grow the stuff. $20 a pound OUCH! but once you get hooked on really good coffee Maxwell House just isn't the same. Starbucks will do in a pinch.


A little to expensive for my taste! I'd go broke in short order buying that.
I used to buy the "Eight O'Clock" beans at A&P, for a while I tried whatever was on sale. I don't usually buy the "exotic" brands. There is a great difference between the various brands. As I mentioned before, out of the well known brands, "Chock Full 'O Nuts" seems to be the best right now.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
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