Clayton Coal Stove Coal Usage

 
RLB112
Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon. Aug. 30, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: syracuse ny

Post by RLB112 » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 6:18 pm

clayton runs great, I only have one issue with it. it uses a $hit load of coal to heat nicely, I can burn 100lbs easily a day. in order to run it so it puts out heat you gotta run the stove at 500 deg+. when the stove is running at 500 deg. and the blower running it cools the stove down to 300 deg. which is about as low as you can run it and still put out heat. with the stove running at 250 with the blower running its not blowing very warm heat. this thing will use more coal than my hitzer at that rate. 100lbs of coal a day= 3000lbs a month 1.5 tons and thats to get the house to 73 or so deg. im convinced that im not heating my house cheaply. im kinda wondering if I should switch to wood. anyone run wood in a clayton?


 
User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 13766
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Location: Guilford, Connecticut
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Post by coaledsweat » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 6:30 pm

Do you have a barometric damper on the stovepipe?

 
User avatar
Lightning
Site Moderator
Posts: 14669
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Olean, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite

Post by Lightning » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 6:47 pm

WHat model Clayton?

 
RLB112
Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon. Aug. 30, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: syracuse ny

Post by RLB112 » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 7:17 pm

i do not run a baro. the model is the older one model 7.1 it looks just like the 1600s. fire box measures 30" by 20" I think. the stove was mint and never used much.

 
User avatar
Rob R.
Site Moderator
Posts: 18004
Joined: Fri. Dec. 28, 2007 4:26 pm
Location: Chazy, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Jr

Post by Rob R. » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 7:39 pm

Do you have a manual pipe damper?

 
RLB112
Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon. Aug. 30, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: syracuse ny

Post by RLB112 » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 7:46 pm

ya I have a manual pipe damp. I run it 3/4 closed

 
User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 13766
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Location: Guilford, Connecticut
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Post by coaledsweat » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 7:47 pm

RLB112 wrote:i do not run a baro.
Your coal is going up the chimney most likely.


 
User avatar
michaelanthony
Member
Posts: 4550
Joined: Sat. Nov. 22, 2008 10:42 pm
Location: millinocket,me.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box stove
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Gold Marc Independence
Baseburners & Antiques: Home Sparkle 12
Coal Size/Type: 'nut
Other Heating: Fujitsu mini split, FHA oil furnace

Post by michaelanthony » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 8:08 pm

Before I did anything with a used, hand fired coal stove, I did 3 things as per forum, got a co detector, got a fields control model rc barometric damper, and last but not least, a manometer. Please search @ top right corner if in doubt. This was my starting point and this allowed me the tools to follow the advise from the folks on the forum. Every stove, furnace, boiler, chimney, and house is different and many are also simular so hang in there once those folks chime in, and it won't be long.

 
User avatar
I'm On Fire
Member
Posts: 3918
Joined: Thu. Jun. 10, 2010 9:34 am
Location: Vernon, New Jersey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Post by I'm On Fire » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 8:21 pm

Does the Clayton have a "V" shaped fire box that is long and narrow? If so it's like a Hotblast and they aren't very good at burning coal unless a few things are done to them first.

Sneaky edit:

Found the link I was looking for.

Successfully Burning Anthracite Coal in a Clayton Furnace

That link may have the answers you seek.

 
RLB112
Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon. Aug. 30, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: syracuse ny

Post by RLB112 » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 8:38 pm

yes its shaped just like the hotblast. it burns coal great. you just have to run it hard to make good heat. it runs 200 deg. less with the blower runnin. im gonna try putting a smaller blower on it so it don't blow so hard, not that it blowes very hard.

 
User avatar
coaledsweat
Site Moderator
Posts: 13766
Joined: Fri. Oct. 27, 2006 2:05 pm
Location: Guilford, Connecticut
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Post by coaledsweat » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 8:46 pm

Do yourself a favor and get a thermometer for your exhaust stack and a manometer to measure your draft. Your flying blind without them.

 
RLB112
Member
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon. Aug. 30, 2010 8:28 pm
Location: syracuse ny

Post by RLB112 » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 8:51 pm

i run a thermometor on my stack and stove. stack temps are always low 150-200. I don't think im losing alota heat out the chimney. my blower only works on 1 speed so it may be going to fast so its cooling the air. not sure, the blower really doesnt go real fast. the blower speed seems perfect for my set up.

 
User avatar
Lightning
Site Moderator
Posts: 14669
Joined: Wed. Nov. 16, 2011 9:51 am
Location: Olean, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: Modified AA 130
Coal Size/Type: Pea Size - Anthracite

Post by Lightning » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 9:33 pm

The blower isn't the problem partner. You can heat 500 cubic feet of air from 60 degrees to 100 degrees OR you can heat 1000 cubic feet of air from 60 degrees to 80 degrees. The overall BTU output don't change much by how much volume you get thru the furnace. Hotter with less air --- or warmer with more air.

I would also like to add that since air is moving that doesn't make it cooler. Air is at the same temperature if its 50 degrees and still or if its 50 degrees and moving at 50 MPH.
Last edited by Lightning on Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 9:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.

 
User avatar
Coalfire
Member
Posts: 1029
Joined: Mon. Nov. 23, 2009 8:28 pm
Location: Denver, PA
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 96K btu Circulator
Coal Size/Type: Nut

Post by Coalfire » Tue. Jan. 17, 2012 9:34 pm

Weren't you going through alot of coal with your hitzer? I don't remember your house but maybe you are still to small on your stove selection? Before your hitzer was upstairs, now this clayton is where? in the basement?

Eric

 
User avatar
Rob R.
Site Moderator
Posts: 18004
Joined: Fri. Dec. 28, 2007 4:26 pm
Location: Chazy, NY
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Jr

Post by Rob R. » Wed. Jan. 18, 2012 1:57 am

Maybe I'm thinking of someone else, but I thought I read somewhere that the Clayton was in the living or dining room. Late 1800's brick house with little/no insulation and lots of windows? 100 lbs per day might be as good as it gets with that kind of load.


Post Reply

Return to “Hand Fired Coal Stoves & Furnaces Using Anthracite”