Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: bksaun On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:21 pm

Does anyone have any first hand info on either of these boilers? There is not much on the forum about them.

The Portage and Main stoker unit looks really good with the ash auger.

http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/pd ... bApr19.pdf
bksaun
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Jan 21, 2012 1:15 pm

I think we have one forum member with this stoker boiler in opperation. It looks really nice,, but have you checked out the price??? :shock:

I think with all the used Wilburt and IronFireman stokers around, and the good boiler vessels, I'd make up a hybrid like europechris did.

Greg L.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: bksaun On: Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:39 am

They are pricey, Im not as handy as he is, I would hate to spend a lot of money and time to have something not work well. I was under the impression I would be better off with a rotating ring stoker for burning Ky Bit. Remember I am gone 24 hrs or more on a work day, its all my wife can do to handle this hand fed hitzer.

One thing that bothers me is they are both made in Canada, I would prefer an American made product.

Bk
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62

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Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:11 am

Did you see the thread from more than a year ago where EFM tested one of their 700 models burning Bit coal? They tested several different coals,
The 700 has a rotating pot.

I believe scrapper23 has an efm700 for sale, or did. fully refurbed for a lot less than the coalman stoker.

Greg L
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: Berlin On: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:04 pm

The EFM 700 would be the ticket IF you can locate a supplier of pea stoker (stoker 1" and under) The EFM's have always had a problem with a small auger. The coalman etc. are excellent choices for heating your house along with all the other buildings using larger coal and can be setup with an ash and feed auger, but, as noted, they do require an initial investment that many can't afford. If you intend to heat all your buildings and your home I imagine the payback period will be pretty quick especially if you have only propane/electric air/air heat pump where you are, if you have NG it may take a little bit longer. yes, with your kentucky coal the non-clinkering type rotating ring stokers are ideal and they allow for easy (automated) ash removal.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:30 pm

OK, BK, the bituminous GURU has spoken !! :lol:

Time to look for a EFM 700 !!

but it won't fit in your airplane !!

Greg L.
LsFarm
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Self-built 'Big Bertha' SS Boiler
Baseburners & Antiques: Keystone 11, Art Garland

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: Frytown On: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:17 am

Often wondered about these. I called these folks last year before I bought. One of their employees wants an AA to medal with to make a hybrid AA and P&M for himself. Price is way out of orbit, probably have to circulate the water 24/7, and have plate heat exchangers. It probably does work, but living this close to anthracite and Williamsport, plus folks digging used AA's out of there basements once in a while, made it a no brainier. Really happy with the axeman. It must be efficient because I still have a few dollars in my wallet and my wife isnt bitching at me for being cold.

I do like the ash remover. :idea: Made me think about making something to do the task. Thought about the chained conveyors in concrete trough like old milk barns had to drag cow crap out. Never did it though. And now thinking about it, they go with a screw auger, it might help prevent cold air from blowing right into the unit.
:flush: No crap chains for me :doh:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1957 Axeman Anderson 130 to FHA
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: bksaun On: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:19 pm

checking on pea stoker coal today.

Bk
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: rockwood On: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:49 am

Can efm stokers handle coal up to 1" diameter?
A couple years ago I sent coal to stokerman to test and was told I would need to screen the coal using 1/2 inch hardware cloth. It was a efm520 if that makes a difference...?
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Stokermatic coal furnace
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Coal Size/Type: Soft coal: Lump and stoker (slack coal)

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: Berlin On: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:40 am

according to coal berner, the auger shaft on a 700 and up boiler is 5/8" the auger tube is 2.5min ID which leaves about 1". I thought the auger tube on the 700 and up was 3" but it seems that I am wrong, it's 2.5"ID 3" or close would be better, but 2.5 will do. I asked him this question because I'm looking into an EFM 700 to burn bit pea stoker for a family member.
Berlin
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Will-Burt Combustioneer 77B
Coal Size/Type: Ohio BITUMINOUS pea stoker coal

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: bksaun On: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:11 pm

Well I talked to the coal yard today, they still offer stoker and pea stoker and plan to do so for many years so I guess I need to start looking for an EFM 700, that way I can burn both if the need arrises.

Now I need to start reading the Boiler forums and learn how to pipe evrything and what all the controls do.

I think a call to Glen Harris would be a good start.

Bk
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Hybrid, Gentleman Janitor GJ-6RSU/ EFM 700
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 503
Coal Size/Type: Pea Stoker/Bit, Pea or Nut Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer/ EFM-Gentleman Janitor
Stove/Furnace Model: 503 Insert/ 700/GJ-62

Re: Portage and Main or Coalman Boilers

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:05 pm

LsFarm wrote:I think we have one forum member with this stoker boiler in opperation. It looks really nice,, but have you checked out the price??? :shock:

I think with all the used Wilburt and IronFireman stokers around, and the good boiler vessels, I'd make up a hybrid like europechris did.

Greg L.



What was the price tag on the Portage and Main stoker unit?
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Portage and Main Outdoor Coal stoker boiler

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:19 pm

Has anyone heard of this boilers price?
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Re: Portage and Main Outdoor Coal stoker boiler

PostBy: Wiz On: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:37 pm

Haven't found any dealers or websites besides http://www.portageandmainboilers.com/pr ... -ml30.html

This was a little disturbing to read ( read the red texts ) http://www.noutilitybills.com/OldProduc ... oodPM.html
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
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Re: Portage and Main Outdoor Coal stoker boiler

PostBy: Northern Maine On: Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:40 pm

Yes...I did find those sites...but no prices...
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