Tying in to furnace

Tying in to furnace

PostBy: pawdawg On: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:26 pm

I am new to this site as a contributor, but have been reading posts for sometime now. First, this site is fantastic. A wealth of info on almost any topic. Here is my question. I know this has been discussed many times in past posts but input from everyone again would be greatly appreciated.

I am fabricating a jacket to surround my LL pioneer stove
I have an existing oil fired hot air furnace.
House is old stone farm house built in 1815 was remodeled and insulated but is not what I consider "tight" at all.
House is about 1500-1800 sq ft.

questions-
Do I remove the FHA from the stove itself
What about providing fresh air to the stove - saw in other posts about that.
Would 2-8" ducts from stove to cold air return plenum be sufficient

Any other info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance
pawdawg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: blrman07 On: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:18 am

Check out the leisure line web site. Link is below for putting a jacket on stoves. Perhaps a call to LL would help.

http://www.leisurelinestoves.com/1904137.html
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Baseburners & Antiques: rebuilding a 1906 March Brownback Double Heater, reblacking a UMCO 1920's Pot Belly
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: CoalUserWannabe On: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:44 am

no matter how you do it, it's easy to test
Just remember, if you do it right, no matter what your outside shroud is made up of, it should be cold to the the touch, or at least not warmer than the outside shell of your oil fired furnace, if you want the radiation heat along with the hot air, it's a different story !

I have seen a small heat exchange room that housed the entire stove, with its own doors ( one to the front for ashes removal and lighting the stoker, another opening on the side for loading coal ) so there was no escape of any heat, a small flex pipe supplied the combustion air to the stove, and it worked very well.

Good luck
CoalUserWannabe
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Kodiak


Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Jan 25, 2012 6:45 pm

Here's my home made jacket (well a metal shop made from my plans) on my Hyfire.

I run a separate blower just for the jacket (the white one in the back) with a temp switch on the jacket (top right), and the CoalTrol runs the other blowers. My furnace is only convection, so it has no blower. I am only running 2 - 8" ducts.

It does pretty good heating this big old house.
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WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: lsayre On: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Does the temperature switch 'make' and turn on the white blower when the jacket hits a certain air temperature inside? What CFM is your blower?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)

Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Jan 25, 2012 7:04 pm

Yes, its set about 140 degrees on the outside of the jacket (it's adjustable), the blower is 500CFM split to both sides thru the 4" ducts at the bottom. I also put a rheostat on it too.

I tried to control it with the coaltrol, but even at idle, if the blower basically turn off, the jacket still gets pretty warm.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: Tying in to furnace

PostBy: pawdawg On: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:48 pm

Thanks for all the input! - WNY with yours you have the 500 cfm pushing air through the house duct work correct? I was going to build a jacket verymuch like the one you have there. Trying to figure out how to attach without drilling screws into stove. I feel terrible doing that. But like I was saying I'm going to build one very similar to yours and use one large square duct instead of two rounds but use the furnace blower to pull the heat off and distibute throughout. I am also planning on putting return air into the stove blower mount and getting rid of the stove blower. That way im putting return air in not cold air off of basement floor. Any thoughts?
pawdawg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer